re: Thoughts on global warming/climate change?

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Nobody is going to do anything about it.

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Tons of regulations and billions of dollars spent by private industry, here in tUSA, says you are dead wrong.

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Thoughts on global warming/climate change?

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Thoughts:

1. The climate is changing and I think it's probable that humans have contributed some significant degree to the change.

2. That said, the science isn't anywhere near as air-tight as is claimed.

3. Along those lines, one thing that is absolutely clear is that the scientists studying it have absolutely no handle on the actual real world effects of it and consistently vastly over-estimate the proposed negative consequences of it. They've made dozens of environmental doomsday predictions starting before I was even born and I'm not aware of a single one ever having manifested.

4. Even if it, at some point, does manifest some significant negative real world consequences, we're going to have to mitigate rather than prevent. We really don't have any choice.

5. Because we only account for about 5% of the problem worldwide. And the biggest players will not stop polluting, and we're not going to go to war with them to try to force them to stop. And even if we did, we'd cause the biggest humanitarian crisis in history, because most of the people who depend on burning fossil fuels are the poorest people on the planet.

6. Because of 1-5, CC is not near the top of my list of concerns.

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Half of these idiots think the earth is 6,000 years old. They won’t be swayed by facts

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If the science wishes to be taken seriously, it should stop allowing policy makers to make and use fantastical claims, which have yet to have a single one come true, to fleece us of our money.

Is climate change real? Evidence overwhelmingly says yes.

Is climate change also an overblown racket to make tons of money? Evidence overwhelmingly says yes.

Do I actually care about climate change? Not in the slightest. Use this planet for all it is worth in an attempt to get off this rock and ensure the survival of our species. If Earth ends up like Coruscant in doing so, I do not care.

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so just keep denying the reality you see around you everyday

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You don’t see CLIMATE around you everyday.

You see WEATHER and they can’t predict that less than 24 hours out.

The data is manipulated and people like you have been brainwashed to conflate climate and weather.

Tell me about current CO2 levels.

Al Gore became a BILLIONAIRE off of it. I know that. And we all know the progressives that support him hate the rich.

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Then he should go talk to China, India and others.

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For what purpose?

He wasn't making an "ought" statement. At least not as far as I could tell.

He was making an "is" statement.

I'm not sure who holds that view. The consensus view of climatologists is that climate changes own its on and can be/is changed by human activity.

Climate is always changing, so "climate change" is an oxymoron.

But if anyone thinks we as humans have manipulated it to change are idiots. Yes, we have warmed up a little over the last 20 years, but that is due to the Earth still coming out of the Mini Ice Age that lasted for about 350 years. It's a natural cycle that is also determined by sunspot activity.

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For what purpose?

He wasn't making an "ought" statement. At least not as far as I could tell.

He was making an "is" statement

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His claim was no one is doing anything about it. The US has...at least the the extent that we can. Our petro industry is the cleanest in the world, by far. Our cars are on par with all other leading nations. Our fugitive emission laws lead the world. We still live in a world where the hydrocarbon molecule is king. We depend on it for our very survival. There is nothing even close, that we have found yet. We are still developing ways to be cleaner.

So, in essence, his statement was wrong.

You then said something about meaningful. We have stretched our technology to its current limits with trying to clean up hydrocarbon production. Outside of government getting over nuclear power, what more can we do that is meaningful?

Answer is nothing right now. We have done more meaningful that most.

We have been warming since the ice age. Sea levels have been rising as well. Every living thing effects the climate. Man more than others. Life will continue on this planet with or without man.