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Those who dismiss Trump’s assertions about election security….

Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:16 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:16 pm
How much time have you spent reviewing the documents that have been released that allegedly back up his claims?

What about the documents do you believe are provably false?

Please provide supporting documentation that counters what is contained in said documents and proves them false.

I’m genuinely curious to get your perspective.
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 10:17 pm
Posted by ALTiger
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:17 pm to
OMB
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:19 pm to
I see two have down votes so far.

But I notice they didn’t have anything to say.

Telling. Very telling.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:20 pm to
Not one of these Sky Screamers will ever admit
their heroes are traitors.

When their people are being executed they
will have the same snarky attitude

You can’t talk to them.

You can’t reason with them.

You will have to fight them at some point
Posted by theballguy
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:21 pm to
Let me know when we get some indictments and convictions.
Posted by Frac the world
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:21 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:21 pm to
quote:

How much time have you spent reviewing the documents that have been released that allegedly back up his claims?

If Trump had the opportunity to address the nation about specific topics that were this important but he chose to ramble about other stuff fand tell us to sift through thousands of documents to find that important story, he done goofed.

quote:

What about the documents do you believe are provably false?

Please provide supporting documentation that counters what is contained in said documents and proves them false.


What if they're not false but still aren't as big of a deal as the hype train made this presser out to be? You're setting up weird framing.

I don't think many people are disputing China hacked registration data. People are just pointing out this doesn't prove any Q conspiracy or any allegations of fraud in the 2020 election.

I don't think many people are disputing elements of the admin withheld information from Trump. Again, frick all to do with election security in totality.


I don't think people would be shocked to find out Maduro changed votes in his election in Venezuela. Again, that basically has no relation to American election security.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

When their people are being executed

Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:22 pm to
The only thing Trump claimed was that there was the "potential for" fraud.

He never actually said that fraud had been committed.

There is potential for fraud in everything in life.
Posted by bamadontcare
Member since Jun 2013
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

LINK


I like that you think this is funny

You really think this thing is going to end peacefully .

I find that fascinating
This post was edited on 7/16/26 at 10:26 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:24 pm to
quote:

The only thing Trump claimed was that there was the "potential for" fraud.

He never actually said that fraud had been committed.

There is potential for fraud in everything in life.


Correct
Posted by TerryDawg03
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Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:26 pm to
I'm not dismissing his assertions. I'm trying to figure out what these emails actually tell us regarding his assertions.

The China interference documents definitely show that there is a disagreement within people in the IC about what should be included in the PDB, and it also appears that folks at the NSA felt that some things were material to include in it while some people at the CIA disagreed. But we don't know what the things are that they disagreed on and whether or not it's material to what Trump is implying.

I have a lot more emails to go through, but I'm not seeing a smoking gun yet. I'm simply reading that people within the IC disagreed on China's overall activity levels and intentions in the election and what should be included in PDB.

If we go into it with the pretext from Trump, you could easily start to lean in the direction that he's claiming. Trying to stay objective in what I'm reading.

All that being said, I still have about 15 more pdfs in this batch. I'll probably come across something in the next file.
Posted by Bass Tiger
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:27 pm to
The vast majority of Democratic Socialists know true election security is not their friend.
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

SlowFlowPro


I noticed you went on a long winded diatribe. But you never answered my question. So, I’ll ask again.

How much time have you spent looking over the documents released tonight?

It’s a simple question.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:44 pm to
quote:

I’m genuinely curious to get your perspective


quote:

noticed you went on a long winded diatribe


Eh
Posted by OldManRiver
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Member since Jan 2005
7693 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:45 pm to
quote:

What about the documents do you believe are provably false?

There's very little in the docs I've read that assert anything is "true", so it's hard to say that I think they are "false"

Lot's of potential this, possible that, emails that are still somewhat redacted that talk about disagreements over how to proceed or what to discuss.

Much like Tulsi's youtube speeches before her doc dumps, there's a lot of words being said but not a lot of actionable intel and proof to back it all up

There's a lot of PDF's to go through, so I may be singing a different tune later
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:46 pm to
quote:

noticed you went on a long winded diatribe

Not in this thread.

What's your acceptable word limit on response? I'll shorten it for you.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
480656 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:48 pm to
quote:

There's very little in the docs I've read that assert anything is "true", so it's hard to say that I think they are "false"

Lot's of potential this, possible that, emails that are still somewhat redacted that talk about disagreements over how to proceed or what to discuss.

Much like Tulsi's youtube speeches before her doc dumps, there's a lot of words being said but not a lot of actionable intel and proof to back it all up


Which is to be expected with intelligence reports. They are not typically written in the demanded/proclaimed binary format.
Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6981 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:51 pm to
quote:

I don't think people would be shocked to find out Maduro changed votes in his election in Venezuela. Again, that basically has no relation to American election security.


Posted by ManBearSharkReb
Member since Dec 2018
6981 posts
Posted on 7/16/26 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

The only thing Trump claimed was that there was the "potential for" fraud.


He set the framing for what is to come.

quote:

He never actually said that fraud had been committed.


The Fulton county FBI report being released tomorrow will show that.
It’s shite or get off the pot time for both sides tomorrow.

By the way what day is tomorrow?
The 17th correct?
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