re: Thomas Massie endorses Gov. DeSantis for President

Posted by David_DJS

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:29 pm to GumboPot

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Ron will likely be more soft on visas putting wage pressure on especially on programmers and computer scientists because he is friends with Paul Ryan U.S. Chamber of Commerce faction of the GOP.

On Monday night, President Donald Trump vowed he would suspend immigration into the United States during the coronavirus outbreak.

On Tuesday, he unveiled his plan. It was far short of a full ban.

The move angered conservatives who were hoping the president would go further. The Trump administration has already paused most routine visa processing and refugee cases during the coronavirus pandemic, meaning the president’s executive order may be redundant for many already-stalled cases. Moreover, a majority of immigrants seeking green cards are already living in the U.S.

“Briefly delaying green cards for people, most of whom are already in the U.S. and working, and ignoring work visas doesn’t help U.S. workers and doesn’t ease pressure on hospitals, “ said Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies. “Can’t know for sure until there’s actually something official to read, but this looks more like a political gesture than a serious policy move.”

Soon after Trump finished speaking, Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who occasionally advises the president, blasted the effort, saying Trump “failed” to protect American jobs.

Conservatives have been pushing Trump for weeks to stop allowing temporary foreign workers into the United States during the pandemic. But so far, the president has sided with business leaders who argue immigrant workers are still needed, even with so many Americans out of work, to preserve the food supply and keep other industries staffed.

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On foreign policy, I have a strong indication that he would be pretty interventionalists just based on who he is currently surrounded by. That might not be his natural instinct but MIC is so strong I don't believe Ron has the intestinal fortitude to tell them no.

A rational discussion on which has the more stout intestinal fortitude, Don or Ron, would be interesting. Particularly if it was based on things done, rather than who said something about someone else, or who's dating who.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

Member since Dec 2013

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 3:31 pm to Fun Bunch

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This thread should expose some people.

It did not disappoint.

They don't know what the frick to do with this.

Posted by rhar61

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:07 pm to rmnldr

Congresspeople sticking together

Posted by the808bass

The Lou

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:08 pm to rmnldr

Based Massie.

Posted by frogtown

Member since Aug 2017

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:14 pm to rmnldr

This is a big deal.

Massie wouldn't endorse a RINO.

Massie wouldn't endorse a GOPe.

He would only endorse the most conservative candidate which is DeSantis.

Posted by LSUnation78

Northshore

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:14 pm to rmnldr

So we’re endorsing people who arent even running now?

Weird

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Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

Member since Dec 2013

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:15 pm to LSUnation78

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So we’re endorsing people who arent even running now?

So the Bro Cult definitely got the "he's not even running" talking point.

Posted by rmnldr

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:16 pm to LSUnation78

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So we’re endorsing people who arent even running now?

Imagine what it’ll be like once he announces.

Posted by LSUnation78

Northshore

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:18 pm to DisplacedBuckeye

I asked a legit question.

All you got is ad hominem attacks?

ETA: atleast rmndlr managed an actual reply.

This post was edited on 4/5/23 at 4:20 pm

Posted by Landmass

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:20 pm to rmnldr

Massie is the best in the US House. This is a great endorsement.

Posted by frogtown

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:21 pm to LSUnation78

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So we’re endorsing people who arent even running now?

You let JJdoc lead you astray with the "DeSantis is not running talking point".

Many knew DeSantis was running long ago.

This is a teachable moment for you. The lesson is don't listen to JJdoc.

Posted by DisplacedBuckeye

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:21 pm to LSUnation78

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attacks

Posted by VolcanicTiger

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:22 pm to rmnldr

"America needs a leader who is decisive, respects the Constitution... well, not the laws of the state in which he's governor... but technically he hasn't *announced* he's running... but I'm endorsing him because... well, because I hate Trump and BRD's numbers are going down faster than Kamala at a a $500/plate fundraiser...."

Posted by Landmass

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Member since Jun 2013

24714 posts

Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:24 pm to VolcanicTiger

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"America needs a leader who is decisive, respects the Constitution... well, not the laws of the state in which he's governor... but technically he hasn't *announced* he's running... but I'm endorsing him because... well, because I hate Trump and BRD's numbers are going down faster than Kamala at a a $500/plate fundraiser...."

He sided with Ron because Mr. Warpspeed is a big government guy that added $7 trillion to the national debt in only 4 years.

Posted by LSUnation78

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Posted on 4/5/23 at 4:25 pm to DisplacedBuckeye

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An ad hominem argument is a personal attack against the source of an argument, rather than against the argument itself. Essentially, this means that ad hominem arguments are used to attack opposing views indirectly, by attacking the individuals or groups that support these views.

There you go, now you’ve learned something today.