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re: This SPLC Thing is a Bigger Deal Than Most Realize

Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:07 pm to
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:07 pm to
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I found our trust the plan thread was anchored and it has everything to do with politics


I'm very surprised it lasted as long as it did.
Posted by GRTiger
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:08 pm to
It's a microcosm of your presence here. You will always adjust the way you debate a topic based on how you can make it insulting to your enemy on here. It's hardly about anything else. I'm sure you have complex and nuanced takes on things, but you save those for your hugh IQ IRL friends I guess.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:12 pm to
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The population who makes shite up? Sure.
You mean in terms of responding to requests for specifics with "well .. there were .... LOTS"?

In response to requests to back up your insinuations that huge numbers of the C-ville statue preservation crowd were racist neonazis, you post a picture of 12-15 idiots. That is CNN-level stuff.

That kind of "making shite up"?

Let's press the question, what is your view of the SPLC as a legit organization?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47561 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:12 pm to
He just tries to intellectualize everything in a tangled web of logical fallacies, opinion masquerading as facts, war of attrition posting, navel gazing, name calling, and gaslighting. When his consistency falls apart, he moves the goalposts, or he doesn’t want to address a counterpoint, he cries irrelevance like a scared girl.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476445 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:13 pm to
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Why do you need it before the event?

I said he screwed up by not taking control of the narrative, and he could have done this before the event by making a strong statement and an unequivocable commentary and criticism of these groups.

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Before anyone knew anything bad would happen?

Why was this necessary? The vile racist in Neo-Nazi organizations should have been bad enough to address before the fact, especially since this is exactly the sort of association his enemies were trying to make.

Like I said, it's an unforced error
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:15 pm to
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The vile racist in Neo-Nazi organizations should have been bad enough to address before the fact,
Like the ones the SPLC was funding?
Posted by YumYum Sauce
Arkansas
Member since Nov 2010
9576 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:15 pm to
Hes a pedo/phag. Its blatantly obvious.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47561 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:15 pm to
Got it, so that justifies Dems and the media lying about it for 10 years.

Goddamn you are slime
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
71028 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:16 pm to
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Like the ones the SPLC was funding?


At least 42
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47561 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:17 pm to
Slo wants you to know that it was OK for democrats to tell the world lies about Trumps response to Charlottesville for a decade because he should have seen it coming and said moar words.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476445 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:21 pm to
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It's a microcosm of your presence here. You will always adjust the way you debate a topic based on how you can make it insulting to your enemy on here. It's hardly about anything else. I'm sure you have complex and nuanced takes on things, but you save those for your hugh IQ IRL friends I guess.


Most of the time just getting people to accept basic parameters of honest factual bases from which to have those discussions is a struggle. This thread is no different.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:27 pm to
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what is your view of the SPLC as a legit organization?


Not a huge fan. They do the same sort of stretching of the truth and dishonesty that I've been responding to in this thread, funny enough.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476445 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:28 pm to
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When his consistency falls apart,



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he moves the goalposts,

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476445 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:29 pm to
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Like the ones the SPLC was funding?


Proving my point in real time
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476445 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:30 pm to
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Got it, so that justifies Dems and the media lying about it for 10 years.

No. Who said that?

From this

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Trump did a terrible job communicating before and after the event.


To this

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Got it, so that justifies Dems and the media lying about it for 10 years.

Goddamn you are slime


I mean holy shite.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47561 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:35 pm to
You’ve posted about 7 million times in this thread so perhaps you forgot that whole exchange where you attempted to hang Charlottesville around Trump’s neck and dismiss this indictment as an attempt to distract Americans from MAGAs Charlottesville problem - when in reality the left, through SPLC, was funding these goons and the media and political class told absurd lies about it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:37 pm to
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Like I said, it's an unforced error
With the TDS press in tow, there are a few "unforced errors." Anyone has those.

Charlottesville CERTAINLY was NOT one.
Trump's statement about "both sides" was as generous and eloquent as the boorish uncouth SOB gets.

The PPP (almost certainly primed by the SPLC) horribly mischaracterized DJT's "both sides" comments.

I know several folks in Charlottesville. Charlottesville is generally a quiet, reserved, quaint place.

They were PISSED to a person at the forced issue, at the outsiders entering on both sides, at the portrayal of their city as a locale in turmoil, and at McAuliffe (both D's & R's) instigating the affair to try to boost his miserable poll numbers. According to each, the whole contrived episode was uniformly viewed as "un-C-ville-like."
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
476445 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:43 pm to
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e where you attempted to hang Charlottesville around Trump’s neck

What in the...frick?

I was very careful to say that the support of Trump by these racists was not a two-way street and didn't implicate Trump or other MAGA supporters. I did the literal opposite of what you just said

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dismiss this indictment as an attempt to distract Americans from MAGAs Charlottesville problem

Again...what?

Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138746 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:45 pm to
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Got it, so that justifies Dems and the media lying about it for 10 years.
Goddamn you are slime
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I mean holy shite.
You deserve it, sans the slime part.

Contrarianism is one thing.
Ridiculousness is another.
Love you man, but you've long crossed that Rubicon in this thread.

We are addressing a completely contrived issue used to aid the undermining of a US Presidency.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47561 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 5:45 pm to
I
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was very careful to say that the support of Trump by these racists
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