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re: This SPLC Thing is a Bigger Deal Than Most Realize

Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:15 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:15 pm to
These racist organizations largely supported Trump in 2016. That is not a two-way street though. It doesn't make Trump racist and it doesn't make anyone else who supported Trump racist. The terrible people who support him only represent themselves.

Now, we can talk about the Nick Fuentes situation, and discussion going on in that thread, and note these people probably do not support Trump anymore
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 12:16 pm
Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:18 pm to
I have no idea what any of that means.
Posted by tide06
Member since Oct 2011
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:18 pm to
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Does it rhyme with “The News”?

I don’t believe the people doing this are Jewish or Christian, regardless of what they claim publicly.

They worship Moloch and Baal.
Posted by EastBankTiger
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Member since Dec 2003
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:19 pm to
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How is paying racist snitches in racist organizations "creating" the crisis?


It's helpful propaganda they can use to push their false narratives to solicit donations, public opinion and favors.

When there isn't enough actual racism, create it and the suckers buy it en masse.

See Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse team, #stopasianhate attacks in NYC, Jussie Smollett, Trayvon Martin, Hands up, don't shoot, BLM, etc.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 12:21 pm
Posted by AlterEd
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Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:21 pm to
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You're wrong about SPLC. You're wrong about Charlottesville. You're wrong about J6. You're wrong about the 2020 election


He is wrong damn near every time he makes a post. Sometimes I think he deliberately gets shite wrong just to troll the board.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:25 pm to
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These racist organizations largely supported Trump in 2016.
all 3 of them and their membership of roughly 37 dudes?!?! And according to who? The SPLC?

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That is not a two-way street though. It doesn't make Trump racist and it doesn't make anyone else who supported Trump racist. The terrible people who support him only represent themselves.


horseshite. That wasn’t the question. Either Trump is a racist who aligns with these groups or he isn’t. The democrats and their kept media told you he is, he told you he isn’t.. he condemns them. so who is lying?

Now, here you are, downplaying the SPLC scandal to prop up these same groups by countering with the very talking points this scandal was designed to yield.
Posted by AlterEd
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:28 pm to
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But why are any racists “bad for MAGA”?



Do you want to be associated with them? I don't think you do. I don't.

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Either Trump is racist who supports these fringe groups, or the left has manufactured a narrative that he and his voters —76MM of them— do.


Bad analogy and false choice



at calling someone out for a false dichotomy right after giving an association fallacy.

What a frickin clown show this guy is.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:28 pm to
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It's helpful propaganda they can use to push their false narratives to solicit donations, public opinion and favors.


What is the false narrative?

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When there isn't enough actual racism, create it

What racism was created?

You missed the point of the question, I reckon.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:28 pm to
And he’s cleverly using “snitches” over and over again. Even though the actual indictment notes these individuals were often the heads, fundraisers or chairman of these groups…:.including an Imperil Wizard of the KKK. All on the SPLC payroll.

But they had nothing to do with these groups activities…they were just snitches.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47561 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:29 pm to
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See Tawana Brawley, Duke Lacrosse team, #stopasianhate attacks in NYC, Jussie Smollett, Trayvon Martin, Hands up, don't shoot, BLM, etc.


None of those hurt the left… yet Charlottesville was “bad for MAGA”. Maybe if we ordered the FBI to use our tax dollars fan the flames of left wing hate groups a little more, and embedded our toadies in the media to sensationalize stories and peddle outright lies, SFPLC might take this more seriously.
Posted by SquatchDawg
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:30 pm to
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These racist organizations largely supported Trump in 2016


I imagine that’s what they were paid to do.

This really isn’t that hard.
This post was edited on 4/22/26 at 12:31 pm
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:30 pm to
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Planting the seeds of doubt in the authenticity of events that were bad for MAGA like Charlottesville and J6
Dude!

According to the DOJ's indictment, an SPLC informant led the "online leadership chat group" that planned the 2017 Unite the Right Charlottesville rally. He attended the rally at the direction of the SPLC, and helped coordinate transportation for several others, and was paid by the SPLC for his trouble.

You think all the regular folks in attendance brought their own Tiki Torches?
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:30 pm to
It’s the most asinine, circular logic I’ve ever seen from him and that’s saying something.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:31 pm to
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all 3 of them and their membership of roughly 37 dudes?

Unite the Right was a lot bigger than "37 dudes"

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And according to who? The SPLC?

The orgs

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horseshite. That wasn’t the question. E

You asked a bad question. I've answered it now 2 days and you continue to REEE

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Either Trump is a racist who aligns with these groups or he isn’t.

I never said Trump is a racist or that he aligns with the groups.

I specifically distanced Trump's beliefs from this population of his supporters, in fact.

The question is why he didn't come out against them BEFORE the event. It was a massive mistake and miscalculation, and then giving his opponents a terrible sound bite AFTER was icing on the cake. This is all incomptence, though, and likely hubris, but not racism. They just fricked it
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:32 pm to
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And he’s cleverly using “snitches” over and over again.

I don't know a more accurate way to describe them.

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Even though the actual indictment notes these individuals were often the heads, fundraisers or chairman of these groups

That doesn't eliminate their status as snitches.

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But they had nothing to do with these groups activities

I never claimed the terrible racists who were snitches had nothing to do with the group. The conflation I've pointed out is people extrapolating this into the SPLC having that role.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:33 pm to
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I imagine that’s what they were paid to do.


Based on what?

Certainly not this indictment.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:33 pm to
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, an SPLC informant led the "online leadership chat group" that planned the 2017 Unite the Right Charlottesville rally.

Yeah he was a piece of shite. What's your point?

quote:

You think all the regular folks in attendance brought their own Tiki Torches?

You're proving my point.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:35 pm to
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I never claimed the terrible racists who were snitches had nothing to do with the group. The conflation I've pointed out is people extrapolating this into the SPLC having that role.
Your "snitch" attended the Charlottesville rally at the direction of the SPLC, and helped coordinate transportation for several others, and was paid by the SPLC for his trouble.
Posted by AlterEd
Cydonia, Mars
Member since Dec 2024
11586 posts
Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:35 pm to
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It’s the most asinine, circular logic I’ve ever seen from him and that’s saying something.


He's gotta be trolling. I mean, he's clever enough to convince a lot of people he is actually a lawyer yet he acts like Corky level retarded half the time.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 4/22/26 at 12:36 pm to
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Your "snitch" attended the Charlottesville rally at the direction of the SPLC, and helped coordinate transportation for several others, and was paid by the SPLC for his trouble.

And if a snitch driving a few people to UTR is all you have for this ENTIRE STORY, then my point is proven.
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