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Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:38 pm
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:38 pm
The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined, especially considering the Delta (B.1.617.2) variant and the likelihood of future variants. Other pharmacological and non-pharmacological interventions may need to be put in place alongside increasing vaccination rates. Such course correction, especially with regards to the policy narrative, becomes paramount with emerging scientific evidence on real world effectiveness of the vaccines.

For instance, in a report released from the Ministry of Health in Israel, the effectiveness of 2 doses of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine against preventing COVID-19 infection was reported to be 39% [6], substantially lower than the trial efficacy of 96% [7]. It is also emerging that immunity derived from the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine may not be as strong as immunity acquired through recovery from the COVID-19 virus [8]. A substantial decline in immunity from mRNA vaccines 6-months post immunization has also been reported [9]. Even though vaccinations offers protection to individuals against severe hospitalization and death, the CDC reported an increase from 0.01 to 9% and 0 to 15.1% (between January to May 2021) in the rates of hospitalizations and deaths, respectively, amongst the fully vaccinated [10].



NIH/Harvard Covid 19 Study
Posted by Privateer 2007
Member since Jan 2020
6149 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:39 pm to
Pharma lied about efficacy against infection.

Posted by TerryDawg03
The Deep South
Member since Dec 2012
15651 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:41 pm to
Shocked. Shocked, I tell you!
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:42 pm to
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Pharma lied about efficacy against infection.


Won’t be long before you can add protection against hospitalizations & deaths to the list of lies.
Posted by Jack Daniel
In the bottle
Member since Feb 2013
25413 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:46 pm to
Still not stopping king mush brain from having you fired for not getting the shot
Posted by LSUconvert
Hattiesburg, MS
Member since Aug 2007
6229 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:48 pm to
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The sole reliance on vaccination as a primary strategy to mitigate COVID-19 and its adverse consequences needs to be re-examined


What other strategies have been suggested?
Posted by Powerman
Member since Jan 2004
162194 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:50 pm to
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What other strategies have been suggested?

All things that will be and have already been summarily rejected by the anti vaxx crowd
Posted by BurntOrangeMan
Dallas TX
Member since May 2021
5628 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:52 pm to
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What other strategies have been suggested?


None from the Evil Empire, they’ve shot down a handful though.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36667 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:52 pm to
Simply put, big Pharma has been paid billions to pump out an ineffective “vaccine” that then acts to pump out variants of the virus due to said ineffectiveness. What comes next? Well more ineffective “vaccines” for those variants. Nice gig if you can get it.
Posted by wayak
Member since Oct 2021
186 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 10:53 pm to
I'm glad that y'all appear to be interested in science, and I hope that y'all follow the recommendations.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:00 pm to
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Pharma lied about efficacy against infection.

No shite! How many billions has Pfizer made off their vax in the las 10 months??? People should be hung for this bullshite! I'm talking public execution! We are witnessing some revolutionary, epic, attempt at resetting the whole damn apple cart!
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50304 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:06 pm to
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What other strategies have been suggested?


Ivermectin works.
Posted by Kraut Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
4503 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:09 pm to
This post was edited on 10/26/21 at 11:52 am
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:13 pm to
quote:

Simply put, big Pharma has been paid billions to pump out an ineffective “vaccine” that then acts to pump out variants of the virus due to said ineffectiveness. What comes next? Well more ineffective “vaccines” for those variants. Nice gig if you can get it.

Ha! The real question is, who got RICH, outside of Big Pharm, for pushing this? Always follow the money! I imagine the DNC coffers are/were heavily filled, as were some offshore accounts of sitting members of Congress.
Posted by Speckhunter2012
Lake Charles
Member since Dec 2012
5774 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:14 pm to
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Congrats. You have quickly climbed the ladder for the worst poster here. Still a little ways to go but stay on the path and be true to the cause.

Science once said the earth was flat.
Science once said the sun revolved around the earth.
Science once said we would be overpopulated and starving by 1985.
Science once said the oceans would be dead by 1995ish???
Science once said the glaciers at Glacier National Monument would be gone by 2020.
Science once said the ice cap would be non-existent in 2014.

Need I go on Mr. Nye?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:15 pm to
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For instance, in a report released from the Ministry of Health in Israel, the effectiveness of 2 doses of the BNT162b2 (Pfizer-BioNTech) vaccine against preventing COVID-19 infection was reported to be 39% [6], substantially lower than the trial efficacy of 96% [7].


Pfizer’s efficacy against Covid alpha was under 50%. That’s my suspicion based on the FDA briefing Pfizer gave.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:16 pm to
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Won’t be long before you can add protection against hospitalizations & deaths to the list of lies.


We’re already there. The rates of hospitalizations and deaths for breakthrough infections isn’t drastically different from the unvaccinated rates.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111498 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:17 pm to
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You have quickly climbed the ladder for the worst poster here.


It’s a bitch Alter.
Posted by greygoose
Member since Aug 2013
11438 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:19 pm to
Vax, boosters, suggestions of further booster shots. FREE! But are they? Big Pharm and Big Insurance are getting federal dollars for all of this. Taxpayers are paying for it all! We got sold some snake oil and the plan was to keep it going.

Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16377 posts
Posted on 10/17/21 at 11:28 pm to
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What other strategies have been suggested?


None by our govt that I'm aware of. In fact, they seem to actively oppose other means.

Beyond here, look at Uttar Pradesh. Ivermectin, zinc, and a Z-pack works. Monoclonal antibodies has been effective.
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