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re: This is for you Panicans and naysayers Iran cannot get a bomb

Posted on 6/21/25 at 1:22 pm to
Posted by ianfson1
Houston
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 6/21/25 at 1:22 pm to
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power. The idea that Iran will launch a nuclear weapon on Israel is thinking like an infant. People in power have one primary motivation, to stay in power. The Iranian revolution was 45 years ago and since that time the Iranians have been about the worst actors on the world stage but there is no evidence the leadership and regime has a death wish. A nuclear attack on Israel or the US would be an end of Iran. Iran is run by money, not by the zealots whose irrational speech making is primarily for domestic consumption. The world will still run if Iran posseses a nuclear weapon as distasteful as that would be.

This.
Posted by Pragmatist2025
Member since Jun 2025
339 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 1:23 pm to
Thread #267 of…”you idiots realize that Iran is gonna use a nuke so we have to do _____”!!! or “you idiots, Iran doesn’t have a nuke so we don’t have to do _____, or it will start WWlll”!!!

Panic and idiocy is a two-way street apparently.
Posted by davyjones
NELA
Member since Feb 2019
34939 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 1:26 pm to
Their actions heretofore sure don’t appear to be the actions of a regime that/who is very obsessed with staying in power. In fact they seem to be dangerously straddling that line with their every move. So JMO, but I’m not sure how much weight that theory carries.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 2:20 pm to
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Unlike even Littte Rocket Man If Saddam gets a bomb or bombs, he will use them. He won't hesitate,.
Posted by jcaz
Laffy
Member since Aug 2014
18605 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 3:16 pm to
You’re preaching to the choir. I hate war but I trust Trump and he would back down before ever sending boots in.
Golden opportunity here to deal the Mullahs a blow and end their nonsense once and for all. Regime change isn’t even really needed if you weaken them so badly that they have no ability to export terrorism.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
34971 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 4:44 pm to
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antibarner

I just found Eyepatch McCain's username.
Posted by Iron Lion
Romulus
Member since Nov 2014
13637 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 4:52 pm to
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This is for you Panicans 
The irony with this is pretty thick. Your entire thoughts, and those of a lot of posters here, are in panic mode that Iran MAY have a nuclear bomb and they MAY use it against Israel. You want to bomb Iran, at Israel's request mind you, because of something that may happen in the future. So tell me who is actually panicking?
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
15893 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 5:12 pm to
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The idea that Iran will launch a nuclear weapon on Israel is thinking like an infant.


Well when dealing with iran you are dealing with an infant.

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People in power have one primary motivation, to stay in power.


What do people who are religious zealots do?

Yep, they do crazy things. This is why iran does what it does.

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Iranian revolution was 45 years ago and since that time the Iranians have been about the worst actors on the world stage but there is no evidence the leadership and regime has a death wish.


Actually they have a religious outlook on everything. And I don't think their self interests always is more important than their religious interests.

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nuclear attack on Israel or the US would be an end of Iran.


The Muslim religion can result get people to kill themselves for minimum results. Al that needs to happen is that one person gets control of that nuc.

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Iran is run by money, not by the zealots whose irrational speech making is primarily for domestic consumption.


Actually while for many other countries this is the case, I would say that iran is closest to being run by religious zealots.

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world will still run if Iran posseses a nuclear weapon as distasteful as that would be.


Until is is just distasteful and omg, one of those weapons are "stolen" by a group and bam, there goes a portion of NYC.

The people in charge of iran were already offered billions to get up and walk away.

Their country would've gotten billions. But instead they still choose to make nuclear weapons.

Iran is outside the norm here. One plans for them differently. You don't base predictions on their behavior with self interest but with a combination of self interest and religious zeal.

The latter is why they can't be allowed to have nuclear weapons.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
25863 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 5:13 pm to
Not me.I believe that NOT acting in our best interests has seriously cost us in American lives and treasure since Korea. Let me preach on it.

Vietnam..hindsight is 20/20 but that stain on the human race Lyndon Johnson cost this country dearly...in a lot of ways. We should not have lost a single man here, because the people here were never really with us and we should never have been involved.

The Bushes were more disasters.Especially W. He had an opportunity after 9/11 and threw it away. You don't send ground troops into Afghanistan. The British Empire couldnt beat those people. The Red Army. NOBODY beats those people in a ground war. They WANTED us there they get off on it.

What should have been done when we knew where Bin Laden was,we nuke Tora Bora the camps poppy fields and everything else worth hitting. We had just been struck with an attempted decapitation strike, the country was angry and would have supported anything we did to strike back.

Tactical nuclear strikes , along with targeted assassinations of anyone behind the 9/11 attacks, and NOBODY would have dared said or done anything.A lot of Americans dead and maimed today would have been alive and whole and the world would have been a much better place, because our enemies would truly fear us.

When we rattled a saber after that, attention would have been paid.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 5:16 pm
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
25863 posts
Posted on 6/21/25 at 10:04 pm to
Seems like I know what I'm talking about. President Trump agrees with me.
This post was edited on 6/21/25 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Ricardo
Member since Sep 2016
6155 posts
Posted on 6/22/25 at 1:20 pm to
IMO, this was a US weapons demonstration for Europe. They'll be wanting to buy their own bunker busters, patriot missiles, jets, etc.

The MIC is cranking into overdrive and is going to account for hundreds of billions in income over the next decade.
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