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re: This Canadian gets it and has more cognizance than the average US LibTard
Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:41 pm to Stagg8
Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:41 pm to Stagg8
It's far more on point that anything you're posting or those wankers in Canada are protesting, even though Elon has zero impact on THEIR lives.
None.
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Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:42 pm to Stagg8
Any dollar saved is a true mechanism to reduce our national debt.
Stop being obtuse.
Stop being obtuse.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:43 pm to Stagg8
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Stagg8
Big govt honk.
There really is not a bigger group of self entitled employee work force than the fed gov sector workforce.
Welcome to the real world. Layoffs happen all the time to streamline expenses and waste.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:44 pm to GatorOnAnIsland
quote:he may be all in on his cognizance, but if he does it again he could be ...
has more cognizance
Out on his own recognizance
Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:47 pm to Stagg8
And puppies. Don't forget the puppies.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:48 pm to Stagg8
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I think a smarter way to do this would have been a hiring freeze while critically assessing the need for FTEs in each department.
I don't believe for one second that you or anyone else criticizing this would be satisfied with what you're describing if the ultimate result was the same - mass layoffs.
The jobs simply have to be cut.
The government is not a make work program and there is absolutely zero room for charity with a $37 trillion debt. And cry me a river over folks fired with 6+ month's severance, you are simply trying your best to find fault and have already proved it by being obtuse in your replies.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:49 pm to Stagg8
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can we agree the way it’s being done is likely not a particularly smart process for getting to a “right-sized” government workforce while avoiding major lapses in productivity?
Who is denying cuts aren’t happening? Some one off comment? Because that hasn’t been kept a secret.
Any time there are cuts, someone always wants to Monday morning quarterback about a better way to do it, but 2 things i know…..we are counting on the media to give is facts, so we dont really know exactly how they are making decisions behind the scenes, and 2) when you are in charge you get to make those decisions….and that isn’t you, me, or anyone else on this board. All we can do is sit back and see if they get the results we all want.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:58 pm to Bigdawgb
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I don't believe for one second that you or anyone else criticizing this would be satisfied with what you're describing if the ultimate result was the same - mass layoffs.
Has anyone else (besides me) even proposed this??
And yet you don’t think I would support my own idea?
Posted on 3/23/25 at 2:59 pm to Stagg8
If the dept. is over-staffed, which all of them are....ROF must be the rule.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:00 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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It's far more on point that anything you're posting
How about we keep all the federal workers in their jobs until we find informed proposals to right-size their departments? How about we enforce existing tax laws on corporations to insure that the statutory corporate tax rate better matches the effective rate?
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:02 pm to Stagg8
Were those tax laws you speak of enforced the last 4 years?
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:05 pm to goatmilker
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Were those tax laws you speak of enforced the last 4 years
Why don’t you answer my question first instead of deflecting and then I’ll answer yours. Would you rather get back some federal dollars by mindlessly laying off tens of thousands of middle class Americans or would you rather corporations pay closer to the statutory rate?
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 3:06 pm
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:10 pm to Stagg8
quote:Those were rhetorical questions that weren’t asking for an answer.
Why don’t you answer my question first instead of deflecting and then I’ll answer yours.
BTW I’m sorry you lost your job. You’ll find another stay at home job to go with your other stay at home job.
Eta keep referencing “middle class Americans”…..nobody gives a frick if they’re lower, middle, or upper class.
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:11 pm to dkreller
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:23 pm to Stagg8
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How about we keep all the federal workers in their jobs until we find informed proposals to right-size their departments?
How about NO!
We don't need more bureaucratic studies and action teams or blue paneled committees.
Time's up for all that. We're past the point of words and "let's just wait & see". Now is a time for action. Employees aren't getting kicked out the door into the cold cruel world. They're getting a separation package, which is far greater than most in the private sector get. And they weren't NEEDED in the first place. Not on the public dime they weren't.
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How about we enforce existing tax laws on corporations to insure that the statutory corporate tax rate better matches the effective rate?
Sounds a lot like "let's just enforce current immigration laws.. ", and then absolutely it doesn't happen. F that.
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 8:49 pm
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:24 pm to SouthEasternKaiju
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Sounds a lot like "let's just enforce current immigration laws.. ", and then absolutely it doesn't happen. F that.
I’d be fine with that. Would you be fine with enforcing the corporate tax laws?
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:28 pm to Stagg8
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Has anyone else (besides me) even proposed this?? And yet you don’t
think I would support my own idea?
I've read it multiple times here and other websites. TBH I spend too much time on the internet & have read hundreds if not thousands of posts on this and other alternatives.
They all have a common thread, that what DOGE is doing is good, great even, but not PERFECT. And from there the conversation devolves into people missing the forest for the trees.
I don't believe that you would support your own idea, because no matter what Trump (or anyone else for the rest of time) does it won't be perfect.
This post was edited on 3/23/25 at 3:29 pm
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:28 pm to Stagg8
The 1986 Immigration bill was supposed to THE FIX.
DC doesn't work anymore. Asking about 'enforcement' is moot.
Stop pretending it isn't.
DC doesn't work anymore. Asking about 'enforcement' is moot.
Stop pretending it isn't.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:31 pm to Stagg8
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Well that and firing thousands of middle class Americans without cause.
Without cause? It’s hire and fire at will in most of America unless you are part of a Union.
Posted on 3/23/25 at 3:32 pm to Bigdawgb
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I've read it multiple times here and other websites. TBH I spend too much time on the internet & have read hundreds if not thousands of posts on this and other alternatives.
No problem, man. I genuinely haven’t seen it anywhere else but I don’t doubt you have. quote:
I don't believe that you would support your own idea, because no matter what Trump (or anyone else for the rest of time) does it won't be perfect, only great.
I promise you’re wrong there but no biggie. I’ve given Trump credit here over the years for committing to the Afghanistan withdrawal, bringing attention to the issues with China taking US IP, supporting the quick development of vaccines and antivirals, etc.
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