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re: “They’re Repulsive” - Tucker’s Rant on How Baby Boomers Betrayed Gen Z.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:36 pm to Penrod
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:36 pm to Penrod
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No one needs anything passed down to become affluent in America. Apply yourself for 50 hours per week and live within your means and you will be affluent in 20 years unless you are remarkably stupid or unlucky.
My argument isn’t whether or not someone can accumulate wealth without help although I would want to know what how you define “affluent”, because I don’t think most middle class college educated Americans really ever achieve affluence and the likelihood that Gen z ever will is declining in a statistically significant way every year.
It’s that passing down wealth when possible is both a good and impactful thing that does not seem to be valued by the boomer generation for reasons I don’t understand.
For instance for college at Bama it would cost $100k instate for 4 years.
At 6.5% over 15 years that would cost a student $150k to pay back and be an out of pocket cost per month of $900.
That then impacts the age at which they buy their first home for lack of a down payment.
For that $350k starter home even putting away $1k/month it would then take another 3 years to save the 10% down to get a mortgage.
Just by making the child do both those things solo you’ve pushed back a house purchase by 18 years potentially based on average American savings rates. It also means you’ve wasted ~$500k in rent that could’ve been paying off principal on your note.
So using those numbers, the child with no help is 18 years and $650k behind the kid that had help with college and a down payment.
People can pretend all they want but not helping your children financially has a generational impact that will drive a myriad of negative generational impacts downstream and is statistically what separates the middle class from the upper middle and upper class.
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Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:36 pm to KennesawTiger
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Keep seething, pawpaw
I don't know that anyone is seething, but if one of us is - it's you. Why would the boomer, who according to you holds all the power and money + control over your life, why would the boomer be the one seething?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:42 pm to scottydoesntknow
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Grok what years of US politics have been most dominated by boomer generation?
So let me get this straight. Boomers, who are less than a third of the electorate and not even the largest generation in the electorate, they still have all the power.
It's weird to see people make such an effort to prove how retarded they are.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:43 pm to TigersHuskers
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Gonna be a lot of butt hurt shitstain boomers in here. frick that generation.
Ohhh jealousy..
Posted on 7/28/25 at 1:45 pm to Midtiger farm
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Late 80s through the late 90s wasn't easier but I could argue that it was better for most people in this country
I may be reading your post wrong - are you suggesting the late 80's/early 90's weren't better in terms of a material standard of living for Americans than generation(s) prior?
My suggestion isn't that life gets better/easier for each American each year. It's that on a generational level, that's the case.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 2:33 pm to tide06
quote:Christsakes dude, you must travel in some horrible circles.
People can pretend all they want but not helping your children financially has a generational impact
Seriously.
I've never in my life encountered parents unwilling to bust their arse for their kids --- Lost Gen, Greatest, Silents, Boomers, X or Y --- all the same. The sacrifices some make are daunting.
All of these stories seem to have a commonality .... "not my parents," but a friend of a friend has a nephew who's Boomer parents were methhead, murders, stole all his savings and used it on their drugs ... "all Boomers are like that ... except for my parents."
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:14 pm to NC_Tigah
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Christsakes dude, you must travel in some horrible circles.
Seriously.
Two different uncles, an executive level mentor and a pretty wide range of casual acquaintances with whom I've had discussions with about this in the past, all of whom had what I would call "good children" and none of whom were in any way dealing with me as a potential recipient of any funds so its not a personal thing for me.
Thankfully I've been blessed financially through my own efforts, but I know a ton of millennials who have struggled with student loans, delayed families and other symptoms of increasing costs and little help despite having family with means to do so.
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I've never in my life encountered parents unwilling to bust their arse for their kids --- Lost Gen, Greatest, Silents, Boomers, X or Y --- all the same. The sacrifices some make are daunting.
I don't disagree that all have made sacrifices. Its part of being a parent.
But is it not strange to you that this is a generally accepted theme across gen X, millennials and now gen Z regarding the mentality people encounter from other boomer retirees? Most stereotypes are grounded in some type of reality even if its not fun to face for those involved.
And has a single boomer has come in here to say that its preferable to pass down wealth rather than spending at will?
If they did I missed it while responding to all the people who came at me for even suggesting it.
The responses have lined up pretty well with what I heard from the people I mentioned in the first paragraph: "they should figure it out", "stop being lazy" and "can you believe the entitlement?".
So to be clear, are you saying its preferable to help future generations build wealth assuming they aren't lazy, entitled or addicts? Because I haven't seen much support from people in this thread for that position.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:28 pm to tide06
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But is it not strange to you that this is a generally accepted theme across gen X, millennials and now gen Z regarding the mentality people encounter from other boomer retirees?
Do you believe Trump (and MAGA) is racist? That's the generally accepted theme, particularly on social media. It's not even debated anymore. Ask for an explanation and you're told, "everybody knows it" ... kind of like the boomer is bad narrative.
And there are more. Climate change is nearly universally agreed on science, did you know?
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And has a single boomer has come in here to say that its preferable to pass down wealth rather than spending at will?
Why would a boomer feel compelled to do that? And would it matter?
Ask the question and maybe you'll get an answer, rather than lay utter nonsense out and expect everyone to agree to it.
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So to be clear, are you saying its preferable to help future generations build wealth assuming they aren't lazy, entitled or addicts? Because I haven't seen much support from people in this thread for that position.
You asked - I have helped all 3 of my kids through college (no debt for any of them, two have advanced degrees), have helped buy houses, helped one start a business and it looks like I'll be doing that again for another. To be clear, we're not talking about a lot of help because all three of my kids are pretty successful/comfortable (ages 27, 30 and 33). In fact, they've never asked for help. I've just come to them with it - except the helping my daughter get into a business. That was planned and involved more than a little funding.
I grew up in South Dakota. I had loads of friends, and only one of them would be considered to have come from a wealthy family. A few of us came from decidedly lower middle class. And every single one of them that I've kept in touch with have/will do the same for their kids that I've done for mine. It really isn't special. It's just being a parent.
I'll also add - I'm a bit of a minimalist. I've substantially downsized my economic footprint after the kids left home because I'm not into things, so that means when I'm gone (and the wife), what we have will all be passed down.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 3:30 pm
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:45 pm to GoldenGuy
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Yea. I don’t really blame Boomers for all the issues. Gen X skated by with zero responsibility or accountability.
There ya go. Now let’s blame Gen x. That’s more fun.
We are just going to flip you the double bird and say “F__k your loans, f__k your jealousy, f__k your opinions, f__k your crying, f__k your protests, f__k your “needs”, f__k your daddy issues, f__k your worthless liberal arts degrees, f__k your demands, f__k your wants, f__k your manufactured crisis after manufactured crisis, f__k your outrage, f__k your “values”, and f__k everyone who shares them.
Gen x doesn’t give a flying f__k about what you think or say. Just ask us.
We grew up building unstable bike ramps, leaving home as kids and not coming home till dusk, watched Speedy Gonzalez on Looney Tunes without boo-hooing about stereotypes, breaking bones, rubbing dirt in cuts, drank right from the end of a dirt covered end of a water hose, playing ball all without having to raise friken money for it and travel 2 hours to the field, played tackle football in the backyard with no helmets or pads, shooting bottle rockets at each other, riding dangerous motorized vehicles, walking the roads/biking to friends houses, sitting in cars while our parents smoked like chimneys, didn’t wear seat belts, learned to drive when we were still kids, rushed to get our licenses, run from the cops on dirt bikes, and jammed to 80s rock and metal.
We. Don’t. Give. A. F__k. Period.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 7/28/25 at 3:59 pm to tide06
quote:No.
But is it not strange to you that this is a generally accepted theme across gen X, millennials and now gen Z regarding the mentality people encounter from other boomer retirees?
What is strange to me is your perception that this is a generally accepted theme across gen X, millennials and now gen Z regarding the mentality of boomer retirees. My experience is diametrically opposite that. Now, I do know folks from various generations who burned through money as fast as it came in, and lacked resources to support their drug addicted kids outside of rehab. But those are the exception.
E.g., I know of folks who ran thru money proverbially "Living at the Hotel California" complete with yachts, lavish red carpet parties, etc. In the end, creditors took everything. Their kids wound up having to pitch in to support them. Terrible. But they weren't boomers.
Equally to the point, I know of many more instances of boomer parents opening the checkbook for their kids to get worthless degrees at very expensive universities followed by their college educated child returning to live like parasite at home. After repeated failures to launch, some of those situations got very ugly.
I have no doubt several of those spoiled-rotten adult-children would happily tell you how horrible their parents are. Sadly, it sounds like you'd believe them.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:03 pm to tide06
quote:Every "boomer" who's responded negatively here to your rants is assuredly of that ilk.
And has a single boomer has come in here to say that its preferable to pass down wealth rather than spending at will?
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:13 pm to CleverUserName
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There ya go. Now let’s blame Gen x. That’s more fun.
We are just going to flip you the double bird and say “F__k your loans, f__k your jealousy, f__k your opinions, f__k your crying, f__k your protests, f__k your “needs”, f__k your daddy issues, f__k your worthless liberal arts degrees, f__k your demands, f__k your wants, f__k your manufactured crisis after manufactured crisis, f__k your outrage, and f__k everyone who shares them.
Gen x doesn’t give a flying f__k about what you think or say. Just ask us.
We grew up building unstable bike ramps, leaving home as kids and not coming home till dusk, breaking bones, rubbing dirt in cuts, playing ball all without having to raise friken money for it and travel 2 hours to the field, played tackle football in the backyard with no helmets or pads, shooting bottle rockets at each other, riding dangerous motorized vehicles, walking the roads/biking to friends houses, sitting in cars while our parents smoked like chimneys, didn’t wear seat belts, learned to drive when we were still kids, rushed to get our licenses, run from the cops on dirt bikes, and jammed to 80s rock and metal.
We. Don’t. Give. A. F__k. Period.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:16 pm to GoldenGuy
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Gen X skated by with zero responsibility or accountability.
Apparently Gen X didn't get the memo at birth that you're entitled to the exact set of circumstances of people born 20-50 years before you. We just went to work to better ourselves.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:17 pm to David_DJS
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I don't know that anyone is seething, but if one of us is - it's you. Why would the boomer, who according to you holds all the power and money + control over your life, why would the boomer be the one seething?
Because no one loves them.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:28 pm to Earnest_P
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Because no one loves them.
I don't think it's boomers that look for affirmation/affection on the internet.
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:33 pm to CleverUserName
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Ok now you are swaying back the other way. You may now finish bringing the point home with the millennials in congress I named. How they are going to save America. Pick up the pieces. Refresh democracy. Give the entire generation credit for their ideals
If you would’ve read all my post in this thread instead of repeating yourself over and over you’d see I’ve been pretty consistent
You’ve yet to refute anything I’ve said about Vance and Hawley’s ideals or how they treated Perot and Buchanan and now they all claim to love Trump
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:34 pm to CleverUserName
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We are just going to flip you the double bird and say “F__k your loans, f__k your jealousy, f__k your opinions, f__k your crying, f__k your protests, f__k your “needs”, f__k your daddy issues, f__k your worthless liberal arts degrees, f__k your demands, f__k your wants, f__k your manufactured crisis after manufactured crisis, f__k your outrage, f__k your “values”, and f__k everyone who shares them. Gen x doesn’t give a flying f__k about what you think or say. Just ask us. We grew up building unstable bike ramps, leaving home as kids and not coming home till dusk, watched Speedy Gonzalez on Looney Tunes without boo-hooing about stereotypes, breaking bones, rubbing dirt in cuts, drank right from the end of a dirt covered end of a water hose, playing ball all without having to raise friken money for it and travel 2 hours to the field, played tackle football in the backyard with no helmets or pads, shooting bottle rockets at each other, riding dangerous motorized vehicles, walking the roads/biking to friends houses, sitting in cars while our parents smoked like chimneys, didn’t wear seat belts, learned to drive when we were still kids, rushed to get our licenses, run from the cops on dirt bikes, and jammed to 80s rock and metal. We. Don’t. Give. A. F__k. Period.
Nice Facebook chain post ****
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:39 pm to David_DJS
quote:Some may. But I'd suspect most come to impart experience-based wisdom.
I don't think it's boomers that look for affirmation/affection on the internet.
"I wish that I knew what I know now
When I was younger
I wish that I knew what I know now
When I was younger
I wish that I knew what I know now
When I was stronger
Ooh la la
Ooh la la
Yeah yeah"
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:40 pm to Midtiger farm
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Nice Facebook chain post ****
Find it. Originally authored by me, here.
Oh yea. And f__k your self righteous, fake arse, Facebook profiles and social media too.
“Pulleese like and subscribe!” Piss off you untalented, attention whoring, idiot, fricktards.
This post was edited on 7/28/25 at 4:46 pm
Posted on 7/28/25 at 4:45 pm to Midtiger farm
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You’ve yet to refute anything I’ve said about Vance and Hawley’s ideals or how they treated Perot and Buchanan and now they all claim to love Trump
Midtiger - you come across less "religious" about the boomer narrative, so a question. What is so bad about life for millennials (or any other age group) that has so many believing their parents or grandparents (or their country) failed them?
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