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re: There's a manifesto aka a trannyfesto

Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:30 pm to
Posted by Tchefuncte Tiger
Bat'n Rudge
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:30 pm to
That tranifesto will never be made public.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:31 pm to
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That tranifesto will never be made public.



I don't know. Nashville has beenvery transparent so far. School security and body cam footage released quickly.

I think we might see this thing.
Posted by waiting4saturday
Covington, LA
Member since Sep 2005
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:32 pm to
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Rumor the theme of it is ‘You mess with trans kids, we kill your kids’

If so, how hard will the media work to ignore it when it is released?


Going to absolutely sink this and blame gun laws and the GOP.
Posted by anc
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:33 pm to
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Speculating here, but guessing it was CPA. Covenant is feeder school into CPA, is a couple miles away,

CPA has multiple security personnel on campus, both identified and unidentified. Many of kids there are from wealthy/famous families. I’m sure he/she was aware of this from attending.

Plus she wanted the pastor, pastors kid, and headmaster at Covenant for their disapproval and efforts to discourage her transitioning.



I thought the same thing CPA has a high school and is more of a traditional school campus. It's larger and has on site security.

Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:47 pm to
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Sure. And a 300-student private school having a dedicated armed guard isn’t really a solution. If that’s your only solution, I welcome you to it.


$48,000 for a guard divided by 300 students = $160/year tuition, or about $13.33/mo, or about 44 cents a day.
Posted by teke184
Zachary, LA
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:48 pm to
I still think Trump calling attention to it and intentionally flubbing a mundane detail will spur media coverage of it.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:50 pm to
Your point is valid but the math is off.

If the guard makes $48k, then he is an expense to to the school for about $60-$70k.
Full time employees are going to have employer paid SS, taxes, and employee benefits.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8079 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:52 pm to
Trump will probably deliberately "misgender" the shooter, and that will be all it takes to shift the entire news industry to breathless reporting about how Trump and his hordes of trans-hating followers are the real perpetrators.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:53 pm to
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Rumor the theme of it is ‘You mess with trans kids, we kill your kids’


Didn't it target the pastor's child? Killing a preacher's kid will make it hard for them to spin this.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21963 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 12:55 pm to
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If the guard makes $48k, then he is an expense to to the school for about $60-$70k.
Full time employees are going to have employer paid SS, taxes, and employee benefits.

And how much good would a $48K guard do? Wouldn't the idea be to deploy someone well trained/experienced to handle a shooter? I can't imagine they're $48K types.

Also, to add to your point about employment taxes, you'd have to hire more than one or contract the work out to cover time off and illnesses.
Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:03 pm to
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Your point is valid but the math is off.

If the guard makes $48k, then he is an expense to to the school for about $60-$70k.
Full time employees are going to have employer paid SS, taxes, and employee benefits.


lol Don't be that guy.

Posted by VolcanicTiger
Member since Apr 2022
5933 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:03 pm to
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And how much good would a $48K guard do? Wouldn't the idea be to deploy someone well trained/experienced to handle a shooter? I can't imagine they're $48K types.

Also, to add to your point about employment taxes, you'd have to hire more than one or contract the work out to cover time off and illnesses.
There are guys who would probably do it for free. A retired vet or someone would do it for $48,000.
Posted by deathvalleytiger10
Member since Sep 2009
9088 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:09 pm to
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for their disapproval and efforts to discourage her transitioning.




Is this a fact or speculation?

If she just started to transition a couple of years ago, how the hell would the school she attended over a decade ago even know, much less opine on her transitioning?
Posted by TexasForever81
Member since Mar 2023
619 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:23 pm to
The point is having someone with a gun there. Someone who kills 9 year olds isn’t interested in a confrontation. They want the easiest victims possible.
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
35715 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:40 pm to
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And a 300-student private school having a dedicated armed guard isn’t really a solution. If that’s your only solution, I welcome you to it.


I never said anything about an armed guard, to be clear.

I said people inside and outside who are willing and able to shoot back. Designated teachers, coaches, custodians, groundskeepers, bus drivers, you name it.

These school shootings happen primarily because of two things:

A). We have failed to address mental illness and set a standard with the participation trophy generation where they're ready to murder if they don't feel like they're winning or if they're just have a bad week, and

B). Schools are very soft targets all the moving pieces (participants) that it takes to keep a campus secure when so many people want to cut corners for convenience, makes it impossible for just a guard or two to maintain vigilance. If i recall correctly, the lunatic in TX slipped in through a door that was supposed to have automatically locked after anyone walked though it, but that a faculty member stuck something in the door to keep it from closing/locking because they were "just going to come right back in a minute".

Make schools hard targets by letting the would-be shooters know that there are a LOT of people there who will put them down with extreme prejudice and judicious marksmanship. Let them understand that the nerdy art teacher in the walkway between buildings heading to his classroom might be the one to neutralize you, or maybe it's the old lunch lady taking out the trash. Maybe it's the English teacher tutoring a few struggling students during her free hour.

Make it unpredictable and variable. Make elimination of routine habits/patterns a priority, when and where it can be done. Any sicko person with evil intentions can watch a school for just a few days and learn exactly when, where, and who to strike. Make that less predictable.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:40 pm to
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@ $75,000 per year, that adds $250 per year in tuition per student...


My VA clinic has one. I feel sorry for the guy because he has nothing to do all day long, day after day after day. And probably will never have anything to do. They do let him check in people to enter the clinic which is something. Friendly enough guy.
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:42 pm to
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lol Don't be that guy

Lol. Thats me.
Holding the powerful accountable.
Posted by Tigers2010a
Member since Jul 2021
3627 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:44 pm to
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Soft targets are still playgrounds at elementary schools and in between buildings of high schools.


If you watch the video of the killer driving up to the school, you can see in the background, a number of children on swing sets in a playground behind a hedge or fence.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:45 pm to
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And how much good would a $48K guard do?


You'd be surprised what a uniformed and armed person can do as a deterrent.

Especially at a brick building with steel doors.

Aim small, miss small.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
26046 posts
Posted on 3/28/23 at 1:49 pm to
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If you watch the video of the killer driving up to the school, you can see in the background, a number of children on swing sets in a playground behind a hedge or fence


That is the next phase of our school system plan.

Large visual barricades at street level that are not contiguous.

We already have fencing, cameras, and an SRO (sheriff's deputy) at every school.

The next phase is a visual barrier that can also create cover for gunfire.
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