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Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:18 am to SDVTiger
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What is there to defend?
Good question. If there is nothing to defend then we don't need the NRA right?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:19 am to Powerman
I got a free hat. Shut up.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:20 am to goatmilker
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Hell I've been enjoying just that in spades ever since DJT got elected lol.
Which is why it's probably the perfect time to take some action since we have someone that isn't afraid to stay on the offensive.
And like I said it doesn't have to be related to gun laws. Make provisions to drastically expand access to mental health care. Proclaim victory and as soon as the dems say something stupid you go scorched earth on them.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:20 am to upgrayedd
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Who throws on a Trump hat, straps on a pistol, grabs an American flag, then runs down to the scene of a school shooting? It's assholes like that that give us a bad name.
My opinion is: carrying a side arm,should be common enough,that the only people who notice,are the bad guys.
and if current laws were enforced,you would know that anyone carrying a side arm,has been approved to have it.
The Trump hat with the American Flag though,sounds a bit over the top,and to be honest,a bit suspicious to me.
I haven't seen any TV lately,so I don't know all about it.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:26 am to upgrayedd
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Who throws on a Trump hat, straps on a pistol, grabs an American flag, then runs down to the scene of a school shooting? It's assholes like that that give us a bad name.
This is the type of shite I'm talking about
Someone like that will do as much to hurt the 2nd amendment than the power hungry gun grabbers
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:44 am to Powerman
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Many 2nd amendment advocates don't want to hear about ANY gun control measures even if it's ones that 99% of the population would have no problem with
Ah, the good ol' progressive trap. Chip away 1% by 1%.
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If 2nd amendment advocacy groups were smart they would get legislators to write up legislative protections that could at least attempt to mitigate some of these mass shooting events.
Legislation has nothing to do with mass shootings. Raising kids with no ability to process and deal with reality is the problem, and legislation can't solve that.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:52 am to SoulGlo
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Legislation has nothing to do with mass shootings. Raising kids with no ability to process and deal with reality is the problem, and legislation can't solve that.
It might beg the question if something is fundamentally wrong with the environment in public schools
Hasn't almost every one of these been at a public school?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 10:56 am to Powerman
Why don't you defend the First Amendment by not posting anymore? (Am I late?)
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:00 am to burdhead
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and when they attempt to infringe, its really time to stop them, by using the rights provided in that 2nd amendment....we have to stop it by whatever means necessary, and by doing so, the nation will not be burdened by so many liberals and other degenerates...i hate to see it coming to this, but it is, unless the Lord intervenes
You first, Patriot.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:01 am to Powerman
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Good question. If there is nothing to defend then we don't need the NRA right?
The NRA sells fear to make money.
Personally.. I favor making gun ownerships accessible but requires a demonstration of competency/licensing/annual requirements.. scaling upwards from minimal checks on hunting rifles, handguns, shotguns.. to M16s and SAWs.
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 11:12 am
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:02 am to Powerman
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It might beg the question if something is fundamentally wrong with the environment in public schools
Sure there is. Fedgov has no business in that though.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:07 am to rattlebucket
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350 million guns in the US. This is how a war starts.
Who wants to invade a Coy try with 350 million guns?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:08 am to Powerman
The amount of bullshite from the leftists is staggering. The NRA, their supporters, and those on the right want to do nothing about these school shootings? bullshite! The problem is, we want to do things that actually might work, and address the problem, not further the agenda of the anti 2A crowd. The things we’ve proposed won’t further the effort to disarm the populace, making those still armed (the government in all its forms, and criminals) infinitely more powerful. Here are some of several proposals you fricks refuse to consider:
1. Abolish gun free zones. Law abiding citizens should not have their Constitutional rights trampled, in the ignorant and failed belief that the government can provide security at schools and elsewhere. It’s a lie. It’s always been a lie, and will continue to be a lie. The government can no more provide security at schools than it can elsewhere in society. The solution to that problem is not to violate the Constitution, creating a soft target killing field.
2. Enforce the law. Time and again we see leftists working to either not charge, or not enforce existing laws. From Obama era programs at Parkland that gave minorities a pass on abiding by the rules and laws, to lawyers and judges who don’t prosecute, and many times don’t even report gun violations.
Shall I go on?
1. Abolish gun free zones. Law abiding citizens should not have their Constitutional rights trampled, in the ignorant and failed belief that the government can provide security at schools and elsewhere. It’s a lie. It’s always been a lie, and will continue to be a lie. The government can no more provide security at schools than it can elsewhere in society. The solution to that problem is not to violate the Constitution, creating a soft target killing field.
2. Enforce the law. Time and again we see leftists working to either not charge, or not enforce existing laws. From Obama era programs at Parkland that gave minorities a pass on abiding by the rules and laws, to lawyers and judges who don’t prosecute, and many times don’t even report gun violations.
Shall I go on?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:11 am to Powerman
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It might beg the question if something is fundamentally wrong with the environment in public schools
If you want the truth, it is Federal meddling in the public schools that is at the core of the problem - that and incompetent teachers shielded by a union that values only tenure and nothing more.
In the Constitution of the United States, the words "school" and "education" appear NOWHERE in the text, yet Fedgov is neck deep in it.
I wonder why that is. And why, since their increased involvement, we've dropped from #1 in math, science and engineering, to roughly mid pack for the planet? All the while spending goes through the rough.
I just wonder why that is...
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 11:12 am
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:12 am to Ace Midnight
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If you want the truth, it is Federal meddling in the public schools that is at the core of the problem - that and incompetent teachers shielded by a union that values only tenure and nothing more.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:14 am to troyt37
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From Obama era programs at Parkland that gave minorities a pass on abiding by the rules and laws, to lawyers and judges who don’t prosecute, and many times don’t even report gun violations.
I honestly don't see why conservatives aren't screaming this from the mountain tops
Why not use these facts to your political advantage?
I don't mean you, I mean politicians.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:17 am to Powerman
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If there is nothing to defend then we don't need the NRA right?
Why wouldn't you need this?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:17 am to bmy
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You first, Patriot.
I suppose that you misunderstood his plain words.
He said nothing about doing anything first.
The next move, is for the gun grabbers to make.
So..you go first...patriot
Posted on 5/20/18 at 11:23 am to bmy
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Personally.. I favor making gun ownerships accessible but requires a demonstration of competency/licensing/annual requirements.. scaling upwards from minimal checks on hunting rifles, handguns, shotguns.. to M16s and SAWs.
So,you want to treat it as a privilege,instead of a fundamental right.
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