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re: There is nothing wrong with the 2nd amendment. People defending it, terribly flawed
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:10 am to ShortyRob
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:10 am to ShortyRob
quote:and when they attempt to infringe, its really time to stop them, by using the rights provided in that 2nd amendment....we have to stop it by whatever means necessary, and by doing so, the nation will not be burdened by so many liberals and other degenerates...i hate to see it coming to this, but it is, unless the Lord intervenes
Shall not be infringed
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Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:11 am to Powerman
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If 2nd amendment advocacy groups were smart they would get legislators to write up legislative protections that could at least attempt to mitigate some of these mass shooting events.
Like what? Specifically.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:13 am to Powerman
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Many 2nd amendment advocates don't want to hear about ANY gun control measures even if it's ones that 99% of the population would have no problem with
In order to make a compromise, both sides have to be trying to compromise
IE, when a deal is made, that should be that.
Alas, the anti gun folks have literally zero interest in doong that. They view any deal as merely the starting point for their next demands
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:13 am to Powerman
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But it sure as shite will be infringed upon if 2nd amendment advocacy groups don't start getting smarter
Perhaps they should hire you as a consultant. You seem to have all the answers.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:14 am to Antonio Moss
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Like what? Specifically.
There are thousands of pages of gun laws on the books and I couldn't tell you what is and isn't in there with any degree of specificity
But on a more general note the penalties for engaging in illegal buying and selling of guns could be made more severe. That's fairly straight forward and you're not making any additional action illegal. Just making the sentencing more harsh.
I think parents should be held criminally responsible if an act by their child is committed using their gun. This of course is more of a state by state issue.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:14 am to Powerman
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The problem is all the rednecks are so tone dead and stupid that they wouldn't even consider this winning strategy.
Because it's not a winning strategy
This post was edited on 5/20/18 at 9:16 am
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:15 am to burdhead
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nd when they attempt to infringe, its really time to stop them, by using the rights provided in that 2nd amendment....we have to stop it by whatever means necessary, and by doing so, the nation will not be burdened by so many liberals and other degenerates...i hate to see it coming to this, but it is, unless the Lord intervenes
And this is precisely the type of moron I'm talking about
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:15 am to ShortyRob
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when a deal is made, that should be that.
Alas, the anti gun folks have literally zero interest in doong that. They view any deal as merely the starting point for their next demands
This.
Compromise isn’t compromise to these people. It’s a way to get their foot in the door.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:15 am to ShortyRob
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Because it's not wla winning strategy
Tell me which outcome is preferred
The scenario I mentioned or one in which much more stringent regulation is passed through because nothing was done by the 2nd amendment advocacy groups
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:16 am to Powerman
Ah I figured your "brevity' was code for they simply need to compromise or lose everything.
I was right.
I was right.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:16 am to Godfather1
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Compromise isn’t compromise to these people. It’s a way to get their foot in the door
And this isn't some slippery slope argument
When you get them talking, THEY OPENLY ADMIT IT
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:16 am to Jbird
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Ah I figured your "brevity' was code for they simply need to compromise or lose everything
A blindfolded blind man could see that
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:17 am to Powerman
quote:It's what you do Powerputz. You didn't actually want to start with they need to compromise or lose everything slant.
I was going to let the specificity develop as the thread unfolds
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:17 am to ShortyRob
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In order to make a compromise, both sides have to be trying to compromise
IE, when a deal is made, that should be that.
Alas, the anti gun folks have literally zero interest in doong that. They view any deal as merely the starting point for their next demands
The gun grabbing group isn't as big as you might believe
There is plenty of gray area here and compromise can be made
The 2nd amendment groups clinging to the most purest of stances is precisely what will drive more middle ground people to the far left gun grabbing stance.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:18 am to Powerman
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By continuing to expand gun control laws at the state level
can state laws supercede a constitutional right?
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:18 am to Powerman
quote:oh the HOROR! He shot an ice chest! Ban guns now!
Obviously by posting videos on social media of them shooting a Yeti ice chest
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:18 am to Powerman
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The scenario I mentioned or one in which much more stringent regulation is passed through because nothing was done by the 2nd amendment advocacy groups
The end result is EXACTLY the same.
Sheesh
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:18 am to ShortyRob
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And this isn't some slippery slope argument
When you get them talking, THEY OPENLY ADMIT IT
Leftists adhere to the Boiling Frog strategy. Not just on this issue, but on every issue. It’s the only way they can get anywhere.
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:20 am to Powerman
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The gun grabbing group isn't as big as you might believe
I have literally NEVER discussed gun control with someone who could say no to the following question.
"If i give you what you want now, and gun violence continues, are you going to be satisfied to stick with what we've agreed to?"
NEVER
Posted on 5/20/18 at 9:21 am to ChexMix
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oh the HOROR! He shot an ice chest! Ban guns now!
My point is that is some stupid redneck shite and just makes people defending the 2nd amendment look like morons
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