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re: The United States is not bad
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:39 pm to LuckyTiger
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:39 pm to LuckyTiger
Maybe, but that's the only options on the table, someone is going to be the world super power, would you rather it not be us?
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Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:43 pm to medium rare
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the Soviet Union
Look in a mirror every once in a while…
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I shouted out, "Who killed the Kennedys?" When after all, it was you and me
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:45 pm to Boomdaddy65201
One person killed Keñnedy, sorry if your pea brain can't wrap your head around that
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:49 pm to medium rare
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Ok and people didn't like that, and did what they could do combat that.
What the 'did to combat that' was a total disaster. It was called Bay of Pigs.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:50 pm to Geronimo
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Vietnam
Stopped reading here
No kidding.
I’m tired of pretending these repeated failed military interventions are all some big misunderstanding that only needs better management and oversight from the permanent bipartisan reigning regime in Washington D.C.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:50 pm to Geronimo
Because you probably have the historical perspective of a bumble bee, if you don't understand why the US had the stance they did idk what to tell you. Lol but you're probably right wing af, sad dude, read a book
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:54 pm to Zach
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We have communists IN our border.
FIFY!
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:55 pm to Toomer Deplorable
Why did the US wage a war in Vietnam, in your opinion?
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:56 pm to medium rare
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Even the Vietnam war is understandable given the global implications of what was happening at the time.
While this is debatable, just assume there was a just and reasonable cause for U.S. military to be involved, the
biggest problem with Vietnam is that you had politicians making military decisions and our government had no plan to win. They sacrificed 58k American lives and never once had a plan to defeat the NVA.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:57 pm to medium rare
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One person killed Keñnedy, sorry if your pea brain can't wrap your head around that
Is this the same guy that was allowed to renounce his American citizenship and bolt to the real Soviet Union and marry a Russian? And somehow return to the United States by the CIA with no papers, mind you, as he had renounced his American citizenship, this guy was so influential he’s also the ONLY American in the history of this country to pull that one off…numb nuts.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 1:59 pm
Posted on 3/17/24 at 1:59 pm to Boomdaddy65201
Yep, someone like that would commit that act, it makes perfect sense if you don't look at it through anti US glasses
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:10 pm to medium rare
Medium Stupid actually pulled this taffy…
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Yep, someone like that would commit that act, it makes perfect sense if you don't look at it through anti US glasses
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:12 pm to Boomdaddy65201
Most likely your understanding of history is basically zero. In your opinion why did the US intervene in Vietnam? If you can give a cogent answer I will be shocked
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:12 pm to samson73103
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While this is debatable, just assume there was a just and reasonable cause for U.S. military to be involved, the biggest problem with Vietnam is that you had politicians making military decisions and our government had no plan to win.
That plus the historical reality of 3rd party intervention. I was in HS and college during VN. I did not participate in any protests. However, I made it clear to my classmates and profs that the war was unwinnable due to history. When a power intervenes in a foreign conflict they MUST have the cooperation and support of the civilians they are trying to 'save.' We did not have that from the S.V. people. They were sitting it out without taking sides. They did not inform our troops of N.V. locations, plots, etc.
Did I get arguments in my class discussions? Nope. Surprisingly my peers and profs agreed.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:13 pm to medium rare
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One person killed Keñnedy, sorry if your pea brain can't wrap your head around that
For much of my adult life, anyone who dared question any aspect of the “Warren Commission Report” was ridiculed as a unhinged conspiracy theorist by the reigning gatekeepers of allowable opinion.
Yet we now know that at the very minimum, the “Warren Commission Report” was a work of Deep State fan fiction to whitewash the reality that the CIA was tracking Oswald’s movements in the weeks and months leading up that fateful day in Dallas.
Sorry if you can’t wrap your pea-brain around that.
This post was edited on 3/17/24 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:19 pm to Toomer Deplorable
I have no time for pea brained conspiracy theories, give me your best evidence on that shite, something like the 2020 election on the other hand, there is mountains of evidence
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:28 pm to medium rare
Well let’s see, shall we, since I have a history minor from a land grant university. We were in country technically in ‘64, but truthfully they had been there with the French since ‘58, with “advisors”, SF & CIA. Same could be said of Cambodia & Laos and all SE Asia. We had a heavy footprint post WWII spearheaded out of the Philippines and we had no intentions of losing all that natural resources and land. Communism was the convenient boogeyman in the room.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:31 pm to medium rare
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Maybe, but that's the only options on the table, someone is going to be the world super power, would you rather it not be us?
No, I would not.
I think history shows the US as the sole superpower as spreading a lot of destruction and damage, across the globe and here at home.
I prefer a multipolar world as a check on unbridled and unaccountable power.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:39 pm to medium rare
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medium rare
Go stand in front of a bus or train. You are not needed.
Posted on 3/17/24 at 2:48 pm to medium rare
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someone is going to be the world super power, would you rather it not be us?
That gets into the historical trend called Hegemony.
Every time a world power declines and is replaced by another there is tremendous war and turmoil globally.
IE, take Rome. When they were in charge there was tremendous global advancement. When they fell we got The Dark Ages.
England was the power when my parents were born. Their decline was marked by the horror of WWI and WWII.
We took over after that. We will not last forever.
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