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re: The Truth About Ahmaud Arbery
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:44 pm to G The Tiger Fan
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:44 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
The criminal "jogger" instead decided to attempt to attack.
You think someone chasing and pointing a gun at an unarmed citizen gets to claim self defense when that citizen attacks them?
You REALLY believe that?
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Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:44 pm to SammyTiger
There is a difference between holding a weapon and brandishing a weapon. What evidence is there that he brandished the weapon before Arbery went for his weapon?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:44 pm to SammyTiger
quote:
They didn’t witness that and they didn’t have immediate knowledge of it.
You don’t get to play cop you have to know the crime happened.
We’ll see more evidence comes out every day.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:44 pm to Roger Klarvin
What evidence is there that they were "pointing" guns at him until he attacked them?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:45 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:It's on the video. What else do you want me to believe?
You REALLY believe that?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:46 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:
We’ll see more evidence comes out every day.
You can read what they told police. It wasn’t “we saw this guy committing a crime”
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:47 pm to Turbeauxdog
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I want the truth (you don’t)
The truth is they committed a violent felony regardless of whether or not you are correct about the actions prior to the shooting. Most of this discussion is irrelevant with regards to whether the men are guilty or not.
Most of the posts in this thread are simply meant to cloud the discussion by attempting to paint the black guy as suspicious, as if that matters at all.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:47 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
There is a difference between holding a weapon and brandishing a weapon. What evidence is there that he brandished the weapon before Arbery went for his weapon?
What do you think the difference is?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:47 pm to Music_City_Tiger
quote:So in order to "block" someone you have to have them 100% surrounded? You are really stretching here to defend a murder.
He wasn't blocked, he could have went right and ran to his heart's content.
quote:He went around the opposite side of the truck to avoid the guy, but the guy came over to cut him off. Did you not notice that ol' baw was standing several feet to the left of the truck, but they locked up in front of the truck? He was charging over to attempt to continue blocking his escape.
He took a 90 degree turn, attacked the baw & tried to take his scatter gun.
Aggravated assault, no doubt.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:48 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
It's on the video. What else do you want me to believe?
The police report. Where they admitting they were chasing this guy up and down the block prior to the confrontation.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:48 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:So attempting to paint a guy as suspicious doesn't matter when the whole defense is going to be that the guy attacked one of the McMichaels when he had several other options?
attempting to paint the black guy as suspicious, as if that matters at all.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:49 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
What evidence is there that they were "pointing" guns at him until he attacked them?
It’s in the report, they acknowledge approaching him with weapons drawn
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:49 pm to G The Tiger Fan
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None of that matters regarding the murder.
It definitely detracts from a citizen's arrest defense they could have
quote:
If someone tells you that they want you to stop and they have called the cops, you can either wait for the cops, call the cops yourself, ignore them, or keep running.
Let's not omit they were armed
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The criminal "jogger" instead decided to attempt to attack.
Next to the clearly objective fact the McMichaels were armed with guns and Arbery wasn't, I'd argue they stalking him, with guns, setting up shop ahead of him, Arbery runs to the passenger side of the car since one McMichael was in driver side and the other in the truck bed, one McMichael EXITS THE CAR BRANDISHING A SHOTGUN and Arbery decides to defend himself yeah none of these facts are not adding up to support your argument here they're moreso supporting his claim to stand his ground.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:49 pm to SammyTiger
Whether they were chasing him up or down the road doesn't mean anything. They could be chasing him but eventually it was Arbery who goes for one of the McMichaels' guns. It's on the video. Am I not supposed to see that?
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:50 pm to Korkstand
The son unquestionably moved himself from the driver side, around the front driver side corner, then again further to the front middle of the truck. Direct efforts to go towards the running man.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:50 pm to ThePTExperience1969
quote:Except when Arbery was going for McMichael's gun.
Next to the clearly objective fact the McMichaels were armed with guns and Arbery wasn't
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:51 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
There is a difference between holding a weapon and brandishing a weapon. What evidence is there that he brandished the weapon before Arbery went for his weapon?
the video and police report, DUMBASS
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:51 pm to SammyTiger
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You can read what they told police. It wasn’t “we saw this guy committing a crime”
Yesterday the deceased was caught in the construction house days before the event and he was just out in his calf high boots on a jog. He likes the weight of the boots for the extra resistance you know. Today we know he was caught in the construction house just before the event.
Let’s be patient and unemotional about this. It’s hard for some of you but I think it’s worth giving it a shot.
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:51 pm to G The Tiger Fan
quote:
Except when Arbery was going for McMichael's gun.
they didn't have a right to assault him anyway!
Posted on 5/10/20 at 1:51 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:Their citizen's arrest law has been interpreted by the courts similarly to other states. It is VERY limited in its application.
Sounds like you’re another one that doesn’t like the fact Georgia has a citizens arrest law in place.
There was even a case in Georgia where a convenience store owner tried to arrest a thief in the middle of the crime. The thief ended up dead, and the store owner went to jail. I will try to find the case. (Edit: I looked the case up, totally different and not applicable).
This post was edited on 5/10/20 at 1:56 pm
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