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re: The Truth About Ahmaud Arbery
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:06 pm to Korkstand
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:06 pm to Korkstand
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Doesn't concern me one way or the other.
It does, immensely, that’s obvious.
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would just expect that when someone makes a statement, they have a reason for doing so and own that reason.
There was a reason. To specifically define the root of the issue while navigating a sea of emotional nonsense.
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Otherwise, you're just saying shite for the sake of arguing,
See above.
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when pressed on the implication of your statements you will crawfish.
Ain’t crawfished on shite podnuh, your incapacity for comprehension is your own issue.
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Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:18 pm to Wolfhound45
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Ahmaud Arbery was chased at least once back up Satilla Drive before he ran back down towards Burford Road and the struggle ensued with Travis McMichael. He was already cornered.
Something doesn't add up. According to the police report the elder McMicheal claimed...
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McMichael stated he and Travis got in the truck and drove down Satilla Drive toward Burford Drive. McMichael stated when they arrived at the intersection of Satilla Drive and Holmes Drive, they saw the unidentified male running down Burford drive. McMichael then stated Travis drive down Burford and attempted to cut off the male.
Greg McMichael saw Arvery on Satilla Drive heading towards Burford. McMichael was at his home at the time, 230 Satilla Drive (between Zellwood and Holmes, on the water's side).
By the time they get to him, he is on Burford. Burford is a very narrow road but they stated they drove down it to attempt to cut Arvery off (this means they had to pass Arvery on the very narrow Burford). He then states Arvery went back the other way...
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McMichael stated the unidentified male turned around and began running back the direction from which he came and "Roddy" attempted to block him which was unsuccessful. McMichael stated he then jumped into the bed of the truck and he and Travis continued to Holmes in an attempt to intercept him.
Running back the other way would mean he ran back up Burford to the Holmes/Satilla intersection but Arvery died on Holmes leading to the Satilla/Burford intersection with the McMichaels already stopped on Holmes, just before the Satilla/Holmes intersection, with their truck facing the same direction Arvery was running and Travis McMichael already outside the vehicle with his shotgun.
So the only real scenario here is:
--That "Roddy" (the videographer who claims he wasn't involved) was organizing with them.
--That Arvery's "going back the way he came" meant he cut through property between Holmes and Burford (which is not mentioned).
--That the McMichaels sped down Burford, up Zellwood then down Holmes (which is not mentioned).
--That "Roddy" saw Arvery running UP Holmes after fleeing through the woods from Burford then came down Holmes to flush Arvery towards the McMichaels (which is not mentioned).
--That "Roddy" was communicating and coordinating with the McMichaels on this (which is mentioned in only a passing way), despite his claims to the contrary.
We know the ending did not happen the way Greg McMichael said it did to the officer taking the report. It's now looking like this lasted longer and was more involved than what Greg McMichael has stated.
So we have things absolutely wrong and many things not reported by a veteran LEO yet somehow there wasn't enough evidence for the 2nd DA to bother with this case?
#Hmmmmmm...
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 6:20 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:33 pm to Bard
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That "Roddy" (the videographer who claims he wasn't involved) was organizing with them.
He absolutely was coordinating with them.
You are right, McMichaels left big gaps in his story. There’s at least three double backs. And it’s likely Sr left the truck to try to stop Arbery. He casually mentions he gets into the back of the pickup at some point of the pursuit. But that doesn’t make much sense.
Eta: they said they pulled along Arbery. That’s obviously not what happened.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 6:34 pm
Posted on 5/11/20 at 6:43 pm to Turbeauxdog
quote:You claim to be impartial, but the fact is your posts here have been extremely one-sided.
Ain’t crawfished on shite podnuh, your incapacity for comprehension is your own issue.
You defined felony theft for no reason, other than to speculate that Arbery committed that crime. There is no reason to do that other than to justify what the McMichaels have done.
You have characterized Arbery's self-defense as assault, and completed ignored the obvious case of aggravated assault on the part of the McMichaels. In the same sentence you speculate that the attempted citizen's arrest was legal.
You have also completely dismissed a critical factor in whether an arrest is legal - reasonable force. You claim that's not relevant, even though it is very obviously extremely relevant. And that's for arrests by LEO, the criteria for a citizen's arrest is even more strict.
We all have our biases. Just own it.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:19 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Arguing that Arbery committed a felony
Never happened. I defined what would theoretically be a felony given we are discussing a case where all facts are not known.
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Framing Arbery as the aggressor, and squeezing in "legal" before arrest, which is far from a given.
Never happened. I stated if someone is performing a legal action in a legal manner they are not the aggressor.
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Arguing that the use of unreasonable force is not relevant!
Never happened, I argued that it’s not relevant that they had the option to follow him until the cops got there as they aren’t required to.
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Don't try to act like you haven't chosen a "side".
I haven’t.
I’m sorry your emotions preclude you from
Understanding what you read. But that’s not my problem.
We can certainly understand that this post of yours is pure fricking bullshite. For starters, he had no stolen property from the house, making what he did at most trespassing, so yeah, you're just being a fricking dumbass to even mention felony, even "theoretically."
Second, as far as whether or not they were required to wait on the cops, again more bullshite from you...what they were required to do was follow the fricking law regarding citizens arrest, which has been demonstrated ad infinitum that they did not do.
It's hard to believe that someone can be so fricking stupid as you insist on portraying yourself in this thread, so obviously you must have an agenda, and it's pretty fricking clear what it is.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 7:34 pm to Prominentwon
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The truth is, no one knows shite.
However, judging by his past, the black guy was committing a crime.
Fify
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