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Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:20 am to SammyTiger
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However a citizen's arrest has a higher standard than a police arrest.
Bingo. I'll bet that never crossed either of their minds. Add that to the initial attempts of local LEO to let this go uncharged and you get the shitshow we have today with the bonus of people attempting to canonize Arbery.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:21 am to Strannix
quote:It absolutely does. The McMichaels certainly hurt their case by committing a felony while attempting this citizen's arrest.
When caught in the commission of a felony all that changes podnuh
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:23 am to rumproast
quote:It's called a murder because they killed someone while they were committing aggravated assault, a felony. Most states, if not all of them, are the same in this regard. If you kill someone while you are committing a felony, it doesn't matter if it's on purpose or accidental. It's murder.
Just a thought. If I were ever going to commit a murder, the first thing I would do is call the police before I did it. Makes perfect sense. It's illogical. Whatever this was, it would be hard to describe it as a murder or a cold blooded killing. Even backwoods rednecks are smart enough not to alert the police before they carry out some planned crime.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:31 am to Korkstand
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they killed someone while they were committing aggravated assault, a felony
Get your emotions in check.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:32 am to Turbeauxdog
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Get your emotions in check.
An unemotional reading of the agg assault and felony murder statutes as well as the relevant case law leads one to that conclusion, as it did the GBI. I doubt the GBI was emotional when they believed that was what occurred.
This post was edited on 5/11/20 at 11:33 am
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:36 am to Korkstand
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while attempting this illegal citizen's arrest.
Fixed.
I think continuing to refer to it simply as a "citizen's arrest" infers they were doing so in a legal manner, thus giving those backing the McMicheals a false defense.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:41 am to Turbeauxdog
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they killed someone while they were committing aggravated assault, a felony
Get your emotions in check.
There's no emotion there. Kork's statement is factually correct.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:42 am to JohnnyKilroy
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doubt the GBI was emotional when they believed that was what occurred.
Well that would be dumb to doubt.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:42 am to Bard
And it looks like someone removed the thread's anchor.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:43 am to Turbeauxdog
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Well that would be dumb to doubt.
Why? They reviewed all the evidence and came to that conclusion.
Please make your case that it's emotional to believe that the McMichaels committed a felony assault.
Also leave out the part about citizens arrest, as McMichael's own statements disqualify them from attempting one.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:47 am to Turbeauxdog
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Get your emotions in check.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:48 am to Geauxboy
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What makes them rednecks?
Dog-whistle, it means "I hate white people".
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:48 am to JohnnyKilroy
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Why
Because the nation is raining down on them accusations that Georgia is a giant klan rally and the political pressure to do something are enormous.
You’re not being very rational.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:49 am to Smeg
quote:Imagine thinking you get to claim self defense because the victim was actually using self defense.
Their lives were at risk and it was self-defense at that point.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:49 am to Korkstand
Thumbs up probably won’t get it done. Try some yoga
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:50 am to Smeg
quote:He was shot before he physically attacked the man who was following him around with a shotgun.
Police records indicate he physically attacked the man holding the shotgun.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:51 am to Music_City_Tiger
quote:If some dudes with guns were following you around, you wouldn't fear for your life?
He was trying to take the baws shotgun... I don't think that is standing your ground.
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:53 am to Turbeauxdog
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You’re not being very rational.
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Turbeauxdog
Posted on 5/11/20 at 11:55 am to JohnnyKilroy
Great argument, you’re good at this.
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