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The Swamp preparing to sue Trump for not spending enough.

Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:34 pm
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:34 pm
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Lawmakers and activists are preparing for the possibility that President Donald Trump's administration, in its zeal to slash the federal budget, will take the rare step of deliberately not spending all the money Congress gives it — a move sure to trigger legal and political battles.



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Any attempt by Trump officials to avoid spending money on ideological grounds would face legal roadblocks, budget experts note.

The 1974 law cited by the State Department official was enacted amid anger over President Richard Nixon's decision to not spend — or “impound” — billions of dollars appropriated by a Congress that Nixon blamed for deficits and inflation. Lawmakers saw a threat to their constitutional control of federal tax and spending policy.

The law allows the executive branch to request permission from Congress to not use certain funds. But it also says any such request must offer lawmakers a specific and pragmatic rationale for holding on to the money. A general claim that the administration wants to shrink spending won't pass muster, experts said.

The law does give an administration leeway to defer spending available funds, but for limited amounts of time, depending on the program. Some observers expect Trump officials to rely heavily on such deferrals.

Trump’s budget critics note that the law gives the U.S. comptroller general power to sue an administration for not spending funds without a legitimate reason, according to an analysis recently circulated among concerned NGOs.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79907 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:38 pm to
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without a legitimate reason

$20,000,000,000,000 in debt. Found one.
Posted by Iowa Golfer
Heaven
Member since Dec 2013
10613 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 12:39 pm to
Noted this with interest yesterday. Establishment R and D's feeling threatened.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21446 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:01 pm to
Why not be proactive and challenge the law in court? Don't sit back and wait for these assholes to shop for a judge, take it to court yourself.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:09 pm to
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Why not be proactive and challenge the law in court? Don't sit back and wait for these assholes to shop for a judge, take it to court yourself.




What is the harm against the Trump admin? I don't understand the bases of a proactive lawsuit.
Posted by Blizzard of Chizz
Member since Apr 2012
21446 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:23 pm to
He's going to be sued anyway if he doesn't spend all of the money. Why wait around for them to file with the 9th circus? Be proactive and challenge the constitutionality of the law in a district that isn't the 9th circus. Always be on offense. You can't beat the left or the swamp if you just wait around and react to what they do.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 1:59 pm to
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Be proactive and challenge the constitutionality of the law in a district that isn't the 9th circus. Always be on offense. You can't beat the left or the swamp if you just wait around and react to what they do.


I get your point but I'm pretty sure the judicial system doesn't work that way. They wouldn't have standing without harm.

The laws need to be changed on the legislative front.
Posted by boosiebadazz
Member since Feb 2008
85583 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 2:01 pm to
Interesting separation of powers issue. Seems ripe for SCOTUS clarification.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
140573 posts
Posted on 8/19/17 at 2:42 pm to
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Interesting separation of powers issue. Seems ripe for SCOTUS clarification.




I believe the final ruling will allow federal departments to NOT spend congressional appropriations unless specifically outlined in appropriation bills. That's just common sense, IMO. Probably won't even make it to SCOTUS.
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