re: The Shooting of Michael Brown: Focus on the Police State; NOT racism

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I won't be on the 6pm tonight because I landed a deal I was supposed to close this morning.

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But if you were to defraud your clients, you'd most likely get on the news.

Some people don't understand that.

Where'd all these cops in this thread come from?

If it is small scale marijuana use, posession, or sale..I'll give them a pass.

Even use harder drugs


If your friends sold hard drugs, then oh well on them. Shouldn't aid in the ruining of communities.


The conviction does matter, just saying.

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Again, I have no stats to back up that statement up, so it may be totally erroneous. But if thats the truth then that lends credence to this being both a police state AND a racial issue.

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Not really. It could be a cultural thing. For example... maybe black folks resist police more than white folks and in the process do things that officers mistake as a threat like reaching for something.

I'm not saying that's the case. I'm just saying even if the stats say unarmed black people are killed more by police, it doesn't mean it's racism.

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I'd say making the drugs illegal and forcing the black market is what is ruining communities.

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Nice spin.

Disregard for a moment that drug arrests are actually a small minority of the jail overcrowding problem; are you actually insinuating that cocaine and heroin are good things to deregulate? I want you to actually type it out and say you believe in that insanity.

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You can't spin the selling of crack cocaine and heroin as a way to argue against the war on drugs.


Those substances are harmful and obviously, by looking at the projects, ruin communities.

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And yet, many affluent white people use both those substances. I don't see their neighborhoods collapsing.

It's not the drugs, it's the battle for turf to sell the drugs.

Make the drugs legal, and that turf battle goes away big time.

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Yep. The Largest Gang in America: The Police.

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It's a collective mafia.

The Police Unions are no different than Vito Corleone.

One powerful union...suppress, divide and conquer the public. It's the greatest defense team in the history of the world...you get away with murder...and don't even need a trial to be "re-assigned."

Johnny Cochran has nothing on the thin blue line and police union's political power to do as they please.

I worked with these guys as an ADA...(or as you may call it - Deputy DA)

It's a fraternal, college drop-out, almost high school mentality...street gang...protect and serve your own buddies. They think they are in the military and go to war everyday and it's all about protecting themselves...not the public.

They don't protect and serve the public. They serve agendas and protect themselves. They will shoot anything that resembles a threat...to their well-being. Brave? They don't want to get a scratch...you have a sharp pen...boom bullet. It's a coward culture.

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Anyways, are you saying that because of the (white) police state, blacks and other minorities are not responsible for using drugs that diminish your capabilities, killing each other for the right to sell those drugs, and for the general lack of care or responsiblity, and upkeep, of their communities?

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Of course that's what he's saying. Any evidence you see to the contrary is just confirmation bias (the preferred logical defense of the internet idiot).

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Of course that's what he's saying. Any evidence you see to the contrary is just confirmation bias (the preferred logical defense of the internet idiot).

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Doing away with the war on drugs. That is my point. The only thing that war does is keep the Prison cash cow going for certain Parishes and Counties around the US.

To sit there and blame drugs for the degradation of cities, when there is just as much drug use in affluent neighborhoods that aren't degrading, is a fallacy. That's not the reason.


But this is off topic for this thread.

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and it's all about protecting themselves...not the public.

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So, Z...protecting themselves is mutually exclusive re protecting the public?

I have family in LE; one in a relatively high management position. He's honest with me; think I have a talk with him one day just to see where the inside policy and awareness of this issue is.

Government is a necessary evil at best. Thugs are evil...and the reason for the necessary evil of Government. I'll take the Law officers any day; they'll come at my call, and lay their life on the line. Screw the thugs. Just like Islam...we'll have to take the gloves off sooner or later anyway.