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re: The save act

Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:48 pm to
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15412 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:48 pm to
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That’s why nobody believes you idiots voted for him 3x.


I didn't vote for him three times; I don't believe I've ever claimed that either.

I voted against him three times in the primaries and then voted against Clinton once, Biden once, and Harris once in the general.

I've never voted for Trump.
This post was edited on 8/10/26 at 11:52 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100959 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:51 pm to
Yes everyone knows you voted for Kamala
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15412 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:53 pm to
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Yes everyone knows you voted for Kamala


Everyone who can't read, I guess.

Which does include you.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100959 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:53 pm to
You act like we dont know you are fos
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15412 posts
Posted on 8/10/26 at 11:56 pm to
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You act like we dont know you are fos


Says the guy with 15 alters and the other guy who claims he's black.

Who is probably one of the 1st guy's alters.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100959 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:00 am to
Solid deflection
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15412 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:19 am to
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Solid deflection




Solid truth, actually.

Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
100959 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:25 am to
Yes we know its true you were with her
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15412 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 12:32 am to
quote:

Yes we know its true you were with her


Kamala Harris has indeed been with lots of men.

I, however, am not one of those men.



Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
Member since Oct 2012
93157 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:07 am to
Low T the super clown.
Posted by Placekicker
Florida
Member since Jan 2016
14625 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 6:18 am to
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You want to run around this exact same bush for the hundredth time? Look it up yourself. It has to do with rural voters (majority republicans) being less likely to have passports or original birth certificates, i.e., less likely to be able to prove citizenship as required by the Act.


Are you saying that rural folks don’t have a driver’s license? That they can’t get a copy of their birth certificates? That rural folks never travel out of country?

You’re such a bigot.
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15412 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 7:41 am to
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Are you saying that rural folks don’t have a driver’s license? That they can’t get a copy of their birth certificates? That rural folks never travel out of country?


Found somebody who hasn't read the bill, has no idea what he's talking about, but is sure he's right.

The problem isn't with having the credentials, you absolute drooling moron, it's with the government verification mandates in the bill.

You don't just hand them your credentials and they look at them and say, "o.k." the bill requires that they verify them by checking with the county records department. Which works great as long as the county records department is up to date in transferring records from paper to some type of digital file. Instant verification if that's the case.

But if your county records department is behind in doing that—and guess what...many rural counties are—then what? Then somebody at the county records department has to comb through files or microfilm to verify them.

They estimate that under the act, tens of millions of Americans would need to re register. So when there's a rush of tens of thousands of people in your county trying to get these credentials verified so that they can register, what happens then?

From Google:

quote:



Thousands of Jurisdictions: The United States has over 3,000 counties and county-equivalent units, nearly all of which rely on local or state vital records offices to handle document requests.

Surge in Demand: Local offices would face a sudden influx of citizens scrambling to request certified birth certificates or matching identity documents to meet strict federal voter registration rules.Resource

Disparities: Rural and underfunded county departments often operate with small staffs and limited hours, lacking the digital infrastructure or processing capacity to handle large surges in manual verification.

Name-Mismatch Backlogs: Millions of citizens—predominantly married women whose names have changed—would need supplementary paperwork like marriage certificates, straining record linkage across multiple local databases


So given all of that, what happens if you can't verify your records? That's where the screw turns. And understand, what you are about to read is what is IN THE BILL that you so stupidly didn't read before commenting.

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The Social Security & Affidavit Process: For certain types of registrations (such as mail-in profiles), a voter can submit an official signed affidavit stating they made a "reasonable effort" but were unable to obtain physical copies of their photo ID or birth certificate. This affidavit must be paired with the last four digits of their Social Security number.

State-Level "Cure" Hearings: Under the federal framework, states are required to set up an administrative tribunal or appeal process. If a clerk cannot find your record, you are entitled to present alternative, secondary evidence (like school records, old census data, or family bibles) in front of an election board to manually "cure" your registration status


Now you tell me what blue state is not going to abuse the frick out of that.

All they have to do is instruct their county records clerks to prioritize their normal daily tasks instead of looking up records all day (not that they would be able to keep up anyway), and when people appeal because they can't get their credentials verified by the country record's office, they get to make a determination based on a family Bible.

You. Are. A. Moron. If you think this is a good idea. (Then again, I had a pretty good idea that you were a moron before all of this.)

It disproportionately affects married women and rural voters, both of whom vote majority Republican, and it hands blue states a huge club to selectively use against them.

My conclusion is not that Republicans are Deep Stating the public by not passing it, it's that they are Deep Stating the people by proposing it. Either that or they are as dumb as you are. Neither is a good reason.

This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 7:54 am
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8484 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:02 am to
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You want to run around this exact same bush for the hundredth time? Look it up yourself. It has to do with rural voters (majority republicans) being less likely to have passports or original birth certificates, i.e., less likely to be able to prove citizenship as required by the Act

I have attained a RealID in two states now. Both Utah and Iowa. Everything you list, as needed for SAVE, was needed for RealID. Rural folks are not as dumb nor as poor as a classist such as yourself make them out to be since they all have RealID now.
Posted by PorkSammich
North FL
Member since Sep 2013
18155 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:05 am to
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Realized it long ago. And people wonder why Trump can’t get things done with a majority.


But…
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29396 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:33 am to
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Rural folks are not as dumb nor as poor as a classist such as yourself make them out to be since they all have RealID now.

I don't think that rural people are dumb. However, it is an objective fact that rural people may have to travel farther and spend more effort to obtain primary citizenship documentation required by the SAVE Act. Millions of Americans don't have any need for a passport. Millions of Americans have no need to have ready a certified copy of their birth certificate. Millions of American women who get married and take the surname of their husbands have never gone through the trouble of getting a new birth certificate issued with their married name.

Of course everyone can get primary documentation. But for most people, they just don't need it. For many, they have no idea how to get it. If they live in rural areas, there are fewer government offices and offices are typically farther away than for people who live in larger towns or cities.

It is easy to imagine that all of your tribe will overcome all of the obstacles and that the roadblocks will only block democrats from voting. That would be a foolish assumption.

If republican leadership were certain that the Save Act would not prevent millions of republicans from voting, it would already be law.
Posted by DeBoar
Member since Jan 2024
5790 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:35 am to
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I don't think that rural people are dumb. However, it is an objective fact that rural people may have to travel farther


You mean like what we have to do to get groceries? You city people are dumb as frick.
Posted by TBoy
Kalamazoo
Member since Dec 2007
29396 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:45 am to
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You mean like what we have to do to get groceries? You city people are dumb as frick.

I am not surprised that you are willing to fight reality because the world is a mystery to you.

Perhaps you can explain why the republicans are not actually committed to passing the Save Act? What is your "reality"?
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
8484 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 9:55 am to
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However, it is an objective fact that rural people may have to travel farther and spend more effort to obtain primary citizenship documentation required by the SAVE Act

Most rural people live there because of time it takes to get there. It isn't a problem for them.
quote:

Millions of Americans have no need to have ready a certified copy of their birth certificate. Millions of American women who get married and take the surname of their husbands have never gone through the trouble of getting a new birth certificate issued with their married name.


They just had to do that very same just to get a DL(which BTW, if applied correctly would make the SAVE needless). Hell, it was super easy for my wife to get hers even though she was born in Bosnia.
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 For many, they have no idea how to get it. If they live in rural areas, there are fewer government offices and offices are typically farther away than for people who live in larger towns or cities

Who needs to go to an office to get these documents? It doesn't get more rural than Wyoming and even there it is all done online. Utah, outside of SLC is extremely rural. This was never a problem.

Look, I ain't 100% sold on SAVE, but these excuses are just trash. Find something else.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
21440 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 10:00 am to
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They know it will impact republican voters as much or more than democratic voters.


This is an epic level of stupidity.

Democrats are in lock step against this and a minority of Republicans are against this. Which side does that indicate to you is fearful?
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 10:06 am
Posted by GeorgePaton
God's Country
Member since May 2017
6105 posts
Posted on 8/11/26 at 10:10 am to
It's obvious to me what's going on here. The UniParty faction of the Republican Party wants to keep the option of stealing elections open to defeat Donald Trump. Plus, they're trying to keep their lobbyist pals representing the NGO United States Chamber of Commerce happy.

Those multi-national corporations (globalist leaning) want that cheap illegal alien labor. There was a time in this country, when corporations understood and supported the needs of American families. I was there I benefitted enormously from this corporate mindset. It's all about profit now.

I'll say it - right now President Donald J. Trump is the only one fighting for American families and workers. The RINOs, the UniParty, the crooked politicians, the commies (all on the ChiCom payroll) are fighting to defeat him.

To this bunch the term "Nationalism" is an obscene word.

So remember that the next time you hear some jerk, hollywood actor, Islam-marxist radical or CNN talking head trash President Trump - most likely he/she is on the ChiCom payroll.

America is for sale - and the UniParty, Mafia Democrats are the salemen.
This post was edited on 8/11/26 at 2:33 pm
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