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re: The right dying on this ICE agent hill is reminiscent of the Chauvin incident
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:39 am to Darnell5445
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:39 am to Darnell5445
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This was a murder, and you are brainwashed if you're defending it with all the evidence that's come out.
No, this was a clean shoot. It was a defensive homicide, not a murder. Your absolute BEST case is involuntary manslaughter, with the position that this woman put the agent in, and his response, which was well within the legal scope of reciprocity. She was there, leaving her KIDS in SOMEONE ELSE'S CARE, with the explicit purpose of interfering with and obstructing federal agencies performing their sworn duties in upholding federal law.
quote:
DHS immediately created a false narrative to support the killing instead of saying they would investigate it like any credible law enforcement agency would.
No invesigation is needed. There's evidence is right there. All the angles are right there. I'll agree that they should have said "we will investigate this incident" but just as SOP.
You and I, we're looking at the very same evidence and seeing two very different things. We should probably just agree to disagree.
And for the record, Ashli Babbitt was in NO WAY putting ANYONE in reasonable fear for their life. This woman in MN gassed it in her vehicle with a law enforcement officer directly in her path and two more to her side ordering her to stop and comply. A vehicle is a deadly weapon. Assault with a deadly weapon opens opportunity for the established precedent of self defense to be deployed.
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Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:42 am to the808bass
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2. The “protest” involves impeding the free passage of law enforcement vehicles on public roads by a “legal observer” who is acknowledged to be part of the protest by everyone on God’s green earth with the exception of Tx Tiger
Saying those words doesn't bring it to life. You have failed (miserably, I might add) to provide any proof whatsoever of this statement other than just pronouncing it to be so.
quote:On what grounds?
3. The ICE officers decide to detain her
quote:On what grounds?
4. During the course of their legal and justified attempt to detain her,
quote:He shot her three times in the face at point blank range through her driver's side window after being hit by a car? You're either the dumbest person on God's green earth, or this guy isn't human. Which is it?
7. Underscoring the perceived threat, the car strikes him at roughly the same time that he fires his weapon.
quote:It sure the frick is.
It’s about as cut and dried as can be.
quote:Correct. The difference is, you're advocating for her murder while I have the crazy notion of innocence until proven guilty. Whacky, huh?
The only questions to be clearly answered are what actions was she taking to disrupt/impede the law enforcement activity. As soon as that’s shown, the rest of the logic chain is pretty airtight. Despite your addled protestations.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:44 am to TX Tiger
quote:
Congratulations. Go to the head of the cult.
The most common attribute of regressives is zero self awareness.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:44 am to TX Tiger
It’s not murder if the facts are as they are largely accepted by everyone not named Tx Tiger.
You’re the only one that I’ve seen arguing that she wasn’t trying to impede the ICE operation.
You admitted that if she was trying to impede them that they had cause to arrest her.
So all of your fricking idiocy is simply a belief that she wasn’t doing what even her wife implied she was doing.
And I’ve let you tar baby this enough. frick yourself and your parents who screwed up your mind.
You’re the only one that I’ve seen arguing that she wasn’t trying to impede the ICE operation.
You admitted that if she was trying to impede them that they had cause to arrest her.
So all of your fricking idiocy is simply a belief that she wasn’t doing what even her wife implied she was doing.
And I’ve let you tar baby this enough. frick yourself and your parents who screwed up your mind.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:51 am to Turbeauxdog
quote:Man, you've come to the right place for that.
The most common attribute of regressives is zero self awareness.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:55 am to the808bass
quote:How many times are you going to post this without a shred of evidence? Your shtick is getting old.
It’s not murder if the facts are as they are largely accepted by everyone not named Tx Tiger.
quote:Thanks for the compliment.
You’re the only one that I’ve seen arguing that she wasn’t trying to impede the ICE operation.
quote:Arrest, yes. Murder, not so much.
You admitted that if she was trying to impede them that they had cause to arrest her.
quote:Again, a little proof might help your drivel at this point.
So all of your fricking idiocy is simply a belief that she wasn’t doing what even her wife implied she was doing.
quote:
And I’ve let you tar baby this enough. frick yourself and your parents who screwed up your mind.
You're mad because I've handed you your arse...again. You'd think you would have learned by now. Take care.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 11:57 am to TX Tiger
quote:HINT - The vehicle has to not run over the arresting officer in order to make an arrest.
You admitted that if she was trying to impede them that they had cause to arrest her.
Arrest, yes. Murder, not so much.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:01 pm to CAD703X
quote:That's brilliant.
You admitted that if she was trying to impede them that they had cause to arrest her.
Arrest, yes. Murder, not so much.
HINT - The vehicle has to not run over the arresting officer in order to make an arrest.
Here's another HINT: You can't physically shoot somebody three times in the face at point blank range after you've been run over by that vehicle.
This is beginning to sound like one of Clinton's "suicide" episodes.
Three taps to the back of the head....SUICIDE!
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:03 pm to the808bass
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And IBM is still arguing with himself.
I'm just trying to get us to stick to the facts. This is the statement to which I was responding. Do you think this is a true or false statement?
"That unhinged psycho bitch gassing her car right at federal officers was most certainly a danger and a threat to their lives."
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:04 pm to IvoryBillMatt
quote:
I'm just trying to get us to stick to the facts.
Man, you've come to the wrong place.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:06 pm to TX Tiger
you upvoted yourself, didnt you?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:08 pm to CAD703X
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you upvoted yourself, didnt you?
So typical. Worried about how many up or down votes you have. The content doesn't matter.
Sorry to disappoint you, but I don't indulge in that juvenile game. Do you like me, I like you. Check one.
What are you 12?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:09 pm to TX Tiger
The content doesn't matter.
you've made that abundantly clear
you've made that abundantly clear
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:10 pm to jammajin
quote:Nice. If I were 6 I'd give you an upvote. Wouldn't that make your day?
The content doesn't matter.
you've made that abundantly clear
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:12 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
It most certainly was a murder.
This is why we have legal standards and elements. So emotionally weak people like you don’t get to convict based upon an uneducated opinion of what defines a crime.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:14 pm to TX Tiger
quote:
Well since you're now a fortune teller,
Anyone with a modicum of legal acumen knows there will not be a conviction. I don’t think there will even be an indictment. Stop being an emotional sheep.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:14 pm to BBONDS25
quote:What do we need legal standards for? Just shoot 'em.
It most certainly was a murder.
This is why we have legal standards and elements. So emotionally weak people like you don’t get to convict based upon an uneducated opinion of what defines a crime.
Am I doing it right?
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:15 pm to BBONDS25
quote:I'm not the one who murdered a law abiding U.S. citizen.
Stop being an emotional sheep.
ETA: Nor am I the one emotionally advocating for it.
This post was edited on 1/8/26 at 12:17 pm
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:18 pm to TX Tiger
"What do we need legal standards for? Just shoot 'em.
Am I doing it right?"
you'd have to ask Ashli Babbit's family. They are far more qualified to know than you or anyone associated with (and including) the legal observer who rammed an ICE agent with her car yesterday.
Am I doing it right?"
you'd have to ask Ashli Babbit's family. They are far more qualified to know than you or anyone associated with (and including) the legal observer who rammed an ICE agent with her car yesterday.
Posted on 1/8/26 at 12:18 pm to FAT SEXY
I'm not reading all this to see what was said already but.....
Dear FAT SEXY,
I really kinda hope that you find yourself in a situation where you may be facing jail time or worse for doing your job correctly and no one waste any of their time going to bat for you because it might waste a little political capital in doing so.
Sincerely,
Mr. Dredin
Dear FAT SEXY,
I really kinda hope that you find yourself in a situation where you may be facing jail time or worse for doing your job correctly and no one waste any of their time going to bat for you because it might waste a little political capital in doing so.
Sincerely,
Mr. Dredin
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