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re: The Republican war on women, George Will's turn

Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:42 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:42 pm to
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He claimed that women who report being raped are conferred "special privileges" without naming what those special privileges are

i mean, if we're going to just talk about this. first, they are protected from scrutiny. second, they are given the benefit of the doubt and believed automatically while the accused is not believed. combine the 2 and it's a scary situation for NON-rapist men

how many other adult victims of alleged crimes are given the same protections in the system?
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 12:43 pm
Posted by Tiguar
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:43 pm to
I think Rex is spot on with soccer.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:44 pm to
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It's a "special privilege" to say you've been raped if you've actually been raped?
No!

It's a special privilege to not be prosecuted after bringing false charges.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:46 pm to
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I think Rex is spot on with soccer.

Another ultra-thrilling 1-0 affair going on right now.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:46 pm to
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It's a special privilege to not be prosecuted after bringing false charges.

that too

there are very few non-adult victims who wouldn't have this sort of prosecution, as well
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:47 pm to
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The victimhood he was referring to... his entire article... is about rape and alleged rape, you liar.

This is a lie. Here is the passage again.
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They are learning that when they say campus victimizations are ubiquitous (“micro-aggressions,” often not discernible to the untutored eye, are everywhere), and that when they make victimhood a coveted status that confers privileges, victims proliferate.
It is obvious that Will is attributing "victimhood" to that of perceived "micro-aggressions." The fact that those two words are in the same sentence, and the fact that the word "rape" is nowhere near this sentence, supports what you must see as a wild, heretical theory.

"Victims" of "micro-aggressions" proliferate in an environment that confers privilege to people who perceive themselves as victims. This is precisely when a woman has a couple beers with a guy and has sex with him reports it as rape--because it benefits her to do this. If victimhood today did not confer privilege, no woman would ever falsely accuse a man of rape.

You have spun Will's article to fit your narrative, and such spin hurts women, and you are, by the very definition of the word, a misogynist.
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 12:49 pm
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:48 pm to
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That's all very sad, but it's pretty irrelevant to what George Will said. He claimed that women who report being raped are conferred "special privileges" without naming what those special privileges are. He also said that being a woman who reports being raped is a "coveted position", without explaining why any woman would ever want to covet such a position.


That's easy, power, pity, and attention.

They get the power to completely ruin some young man's life and decide his fate. It's very alluring to do this to someone you hate or to do so out of spite (girl in hs did it to my friend because he refused to go out with her). She felt slighted so she "got even".

Pity. Everyone likes sympathy. Some people even go so far as to want to he pitied.

Attention. For a wall flower who doesn't get a lot of attention, the sympathy from claiming rape can be attractive. She will get nothing but positive and supporting attention from her friends as well as authority figures. Professors will be more lenient with grades, girls friends who are normally distant will rally around her, and she will always have the moral high ground for a while.

Throw in the fact that there are literally zero disincentives under the law to do this and crazy, vindictive, or attention starved women will do this, and do do this, with impugnity.
Posted by redandright
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:50 pm to
That column came about 3 weeks ago.

There were the customary calls for his firing from the WaPs. To no avail.

There've been about 15 outrage worthy things from the professional whiners since then.

Maybe your internet service is slow?
Posted by ballscaster
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:50 pm to
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Throw in the fact that there are literally zero disincentives under the law to do this and crazy, vindictive, or attention starved women will do this, and do do this, with impugnity.
Posted by TooMuchArkyInMe
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:50 pm to
do u smell that

that's the smell of misogyny
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:52 pm to
once liberals jump in the boat of fully prosecuting women who make false accusations, or creating much harsher laws for this behavior, then i will take these arguments much more seriously

typically this is seen as improper and chilling, so they are 100% against this

and i'm talking duke lacrosse case or that football player in cali who served time for bullshite/lies
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:53 pm to
The example he used, liar, to demonstrate his point was a matter of rape.

You sound like one of those persons who has problems with SAT questions that ask for the most appropriate of the multiple choice titles for a particular essay.

Posted by GeauxxxTigers23
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:56 pm to
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that's the smell of misogyny



I don't think you know what that word means.
Posted by TooMuchArkyInMe
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:58 pm to
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I don't think you know what that word means.


nice one, bro, very nice.... NICE comeback... dope..
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 12:59 pm to
Sure, because it's so much more valuable for a woman to be seen as a rape victim than not.

Give me a break.
Posted by Sevendust912
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:01 pm to
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or that football player in cali who served time for bullshite/lies



Brian Banks, not sure how I never heard that story until recently, but I was reading about that a few weeks ago. The girl who cried rape also got $1+ mil settlement from the school which she was ordered to pay back. Of course she already spent the money
Posted by SpidermanTUba
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:01 pm to
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Being a rape victim is "a coveted status that confers privileges". LINK

Ouch. Way to go, George. But the next time you seek to add hurt to a raped woman you might have to walk up to her and kick her, instead.... because there's a move afoot to get your articles off mainstream newspapers.



Did you look into how he cooked the books?

He shows that crime report statistics for Ohio State are inconsistent with the survey - but he uses ONLY reports of sexual assault within the jurisdiction of campus police - completely ignoring the fact most sexual assaults of college students occur off campus.



Remember - if 20% of all college women are sexually assaulted - someone is doing the assaulting, right? That's what I usually think about whenever I hear someone claiming to be a man who minimizes sexual assault against women (and in this case is paid to do it)
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted by Sevendust912
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:02 pm to
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Sure, because it's so much more valuable for a woman to be seen as a rape victim than not.


Well the girl who accused Brian Banks got over a million dollars for being seen as a rape victim, so there's that.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:02 pm to
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Of course she already spent the money

who didn't see that one coming?
Posted by kingbob
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 1:03 pm to
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Sure, because it's so much more valuable for a woman to be seen as a rape victim than not. Give me a break.


You can't understand because you are not nor do you spend much time with young women.
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