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re: The Republican war on women, George Will's turn
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:05 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
Liberal Feminism takes a gender-neutral/gender-blind approach and holds that all men and women are created equal and should be treated the same
by government, right?
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Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Well thats not true 
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:Not remotely true, but it surely sounds great.
Liberal Feminism takes a gender-neutral/gender-blind approach and holds that all men and women are created equal and should be treated the same
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:11 pm to NC_Tigah
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Not remotely true
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:12 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Draconian you may not want a compliment from me, but IMO you are one of the better posters on this board, maybe the best. I don't always agree with you but you always display intelligence and thoughtfulness in your posts. And you are clearly an independent thinker and not part of the echo chamber.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:13 pm to wfeliciana
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Draconian you may not want a compliment from me
why wouldn't I?
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:13 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Ive never met a single feminist who wants equality for men and women.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:13 pm to NC_Tigah
I wonder what % of young, single women are simply too naive to figure out that liberals are just using them as a pawn?
Hate to say it, but I know it's a fairly significant number.
#phonywaronwomen
Hate to say it, but I know it's a fairly significant number.
#phonywaronwomen
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:15 pm to SlowFlowPro
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:17 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Ive never met a single feminist who wants equality for men and women.
funny, i've never met a single feminist who wants anything BUT equality for men and women.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:17 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
just fyi
if you want to get into the basis of lib-prog ideology, you have to remember this: their belief system is not based in individual decision making. their belief system is based in a societal view based on institutions
so, like in that description of radical feminists, you see their reliance on "patriarchy". that is the institutional cause. individual behaviors do not matter, only the institutional causes
if you ever need to describesuch a belief system, remember this
it also helps when discussing issues with libprogs
if you want to get into the basis of lib-prog ideology, you have to remember this: their belief system is not based in individual decision making. their belief system is based in a societal view based on institutions
so, like in that description of radical feminists, you see their reliance on "patriarchy". that is the institutional cause. individual behaviors do not matter, only the institutional causes
if you ever need to describesuch a belief system, remember this
it also helps when discussing issues with libprogs
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
funny, i've never met a single feminist who wants anything BUT equality for men and women.
the question is what kind of equality?
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:21 pm to SlowFlowPro
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their belief system is not based in individual decision making. their belief system is based in a societal view based on institutions
i've always thought it was bizarre how conservatives want to deny the existence, or at the very least the influence, of societal institutions. It strikes me as extremely naive as does this pathological attachment to the purity of the "free market", as if profit motives alone will solve every societal problem. It's a completely delusional thought process.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:22 pm to GeauxxxTigers23
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I will apply it to all Democrats. Kinda like Democrats apply the idea that all women who get raped deserve it to all Republicans.
You win the internet.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:24 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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or at the very least the influence, of societal institutions
you mean like country clubs? the rotary? cliques in school?
or government?
quote:
as if profit motives alone will solve every societal problem.
well you have to remember, profits only come about after service. and homeostasis is death. it's not about profit motive, it's about continuous, systematic development of serving the population
groups that are under-represented politically are still able to be represented in the free market
This post was edited on 7/5/14 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:24 pm to Draconian Sanctions
quote:
funny, i've never met a single feminist who wants anything BUT equality for men and women.
I mean, they say they want equality sure. Their actions and individual ideas on various topics do not bare that out however.
Just like the patriarchy they fight, feminism strives for a system that rewards women in many ways simply because they are women.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
I only really interact with libprogs on this board tbh. I don't discuss politics at work and I only hang out with sane people IRL.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:26 pm to Roger Klarvin
quote:
Just like the patriarchy they fight, feminism strives for a system that rewards women in many ways simply because they are women.
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:27 pm to MSCoastTigerGirl
i used to be a huge liberal, so i understand them on a personal level (i'm good at understanding people in general, but this is much more detailed)
Posted on 7/5/14 at 4:29 pm to SlowFlowPro
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i used to be a huge liberal
I got time. I'm willing to listen to why the change of heart. Maybe it will help others, or not.
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