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re: The prophecies of Scruffy/SFP re: protesting

Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:54 am to
Posted by SidewalkDawg
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:54 am to
Protesting works when you are the majority and can remain peaceful. It's all about who is first to act and who controls the narrative.

If the establishment acts first against a non-violent protest, then the message of the protest is sympathized with.

The protest also needs to make sense. Protesting a war is fine, protesting equal rights is fine. This current protest is anything but that.

It's violent and is waged against a constitutional institution that democratically elected Trump. It's only proving our point.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:55 am to
yep, which just means they don't dig into facts. They chase the narrative of journalist. I do think that this election showed we can break the dem plantation though. They weren't as excited about clinton, and now we have a chance to actually help inner cities if they are willing to do some work themselves.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:57 am to
The issue is this protest will never remain peaceful. Its not the lefts MO. Also people have figured it out, you give them enough rope and they will eventually get violent and then you shut it down. BRPD did an excellent job of not bum rushing them and making the protestors look like the complete shite heads they were.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 8:58 am to
the whole bernie fandom really helped split the DEM support tuesday

what the GOP needs is that schism to continue and for real progs to keep splitting up the party
Posted by Fugly
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:00 am to

Donald J. Trump ? @realDonaldTrump
We can't let this happen. We should march on Washington and stop this travesty. Our nation is totally divided!
10:29 PM - 6 Nov 2012

Very Unfair

Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:03 am to
This election will be extremely interesting to study. I had suspected for a while the dem circus tent would eventually cave in on itself. You can only hold every minority group in a pack for so long. They isolated and let the whackos run off their blue collar worker support and Trump was the perfect person to tap into those votes.

If we let the white SJW keep pandering to the muslims, I think eventually most of the gays can be slipped to the right if we get off stupid social platforms. Which I have said for a while that we should put down the extreme religious right side of the party. Where are they going to go? 3rd party, nope, liberal nope. They might stay home but you win more indys and steal the left that doesn't want to go full communism.

I think as of now its going to continue because the left has an ego issue. They don't realize they are off base from what the normal every day american wants. They see the squeaky wheel and chase it. FWIW the right does the same shite but Trump was just able to tap to normal american citizen.

I hope Bernie bros keep it up, I really don't think they would ever let him become the face of the party. He has always been on the outside.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:04 am to
quote:

oh i posted about the Tea Party protests in 2009-2010 in the same manner


The same Tea Party protestors that held a rally in DC then turned around and picked up their trash when it was over?
Posted by upgrayedd
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Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:07 am to
quote:

I think as of now its going to continue because the left has an ego issue. They don't realize they are off base from what the normal every day american wants. They see the squeaky wheel and chase it. FWIW the right does the same shite but Trump was just able to tap to normal american citizen.

This.

Identity politics to their level was always going to be an eventual disaster. All groups had the same message - the backbone of this country is evil.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 11/13/16 at 9:07 am to
quote:

They don't realize they are off base from what the normal every day american wants.

when the progs took over, they actively sought to fight this

their whole philosophy is to attack the "normal, every day american" culture

they don't want their support. they want to actively insult this population to marginalize them
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