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The Peaceful Breakup of Czechoslovakia
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 1:26 pm
Some striking similarities between the early 90s Czechoslovakia and us.
“The split ‘was not entirely inevitable, but the political and economic costs of keeping the country together would have been extremely high,’ pointed out Jiri Pehe, political analyst and former advisor to Vaclav Havel.”
“Although no referendum was ever held on the matter, democracy was indeed at the heart of the issue: all the problems associated with the federation of two states of unequal weight and size only appeared after the centralized, communist regime collapsed as Czechoslovakia reconnected with democracy. The decision-making paralysis and the federal government’s inability to push any significant reforms in the early 1990’s strongly contributed to the top-down decision of Klaus and Meciar.”
“Yet, the truth is slightly more complicated. Although most Czechs and Slovaks wanted to preserve Czechoslovakia, both sides yearned for a reformed, mutually incompatible version, founded on deeply-rooted historical grievances and frustrations.”
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“The split ‘was not entirely inevitable, but the political and economic costs of keeping the country together would have been extremely high,’ pointed out Jiri Pehe, political analyst and former advisor to Vaclav Havel.”
“Although no referendum was ever held on the matter, democracy was indeed at the heart of the issue: all the problems associated with the federation of two states of unequal weight and size only appeared after the centralized, communist regime collapsed as Czechoslovakia reconnected with democracy. The decision-making paralysis and the federal government’s inability to push any significant reforms in the early 1990’s strongly contributed to the top-down decision of Klaus and Meciar.”
“Yet, the truth is slightly more complicated. Although most Czechs and Slovaks wanted to preserve Czechoslovakia, both sides yearned for a reformed, mutually incompatible version, founded on deeply-rooted historical grievances and frustrations.”
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:07 pm to Tigerhalen
They got it right, that's how we ended up with CZ rifles.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:11 pm to Tigerhalen
We need to make the cost of staying together too high.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:11 pm to auggie
I have two CZ rifles and EDC is a P-01.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:21 pm to aubiecat
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I have two CZ rifles and EDC is a P-01.
I've got 6 of their rifles, but don't have any of their pistols. I know they are great, but I am partial to my glock 19. I just love the cz 512s in .22 mag, and I try to buy every one of them that I come across. I have 3 of those, and a 452 in .17hmr and 2 455s in 17 and 22mag
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:34 pm to Tigerhalen
Let’s go ahead and get it out of the way. No, this is not a template for the breakup of the United States, and no, that situation is not anything like the present political situation in this country.
Unless of course your only criteria for being analogous is “groups of people within the nation disagree with each other”
Unless of course your only criteria for being analogous is “groups of people within the nation disagree with each other”
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:35 pm to Tigerhalen
The left doesn't want to break up, they want to dictate what the right does.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:37 pm to tiggerthetooth
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The left doesn't want to break up, they want to exterminate the right.
ftfy
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:41 pm to Indefatigable
quote:
Let’s go ahead and get it out of the way. No, this is not a template for the breakup of the United States, and no, that situation is not anything like the present political situation in this country.
Unless of course your only criteria for being analogous is “groups of people within the nation disagree with each other”
I said some “striking similarities,” which there are, not that it’s a “template.” I would argue the situation here is more dire, because there is genuine hate here.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:43 pm to Tigerhalen
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I said some “striking similarities,” which there are, not that it’s a “template.” I would argue the situation here is more dire, because there is genuine hate here.
I wasn’t so much directing my comment at your OP. It was more to go ahead and address the throngs that will come in here and insist that a breakup of the United States should happen on a similar basis..whenever that’s not possible because the historical and ethnic factors that made a peaceful breakup possible for the Czechs and Slovaks do not exist here.
They could break cleanly on historical ethnic lines and be done with it. We have no such lines. Our lines are partisan, superficial, and we do not have any clean lines to draw without massive forced human migration.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:46 pm to tiggerthetooth
quote:This.
The left doesn't want to break up, they want to dictate what the right does.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:48 pm to Indefatigable
quote:Which says a lot about how we’re not really as far apart as those harvesting division are preaching to us.
They could break cleanly on historical ethnic lines and be done with it. We have no such lines.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:48 pm to Indefatigable
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I wasn’t so much directing my comment at your OP. It was more to go ahead and address the throngs that will come in here and insist that a breakup of the United States should happen on a similar basis..whenever that’s not possible because the historical and ethnic factors that made a peaceful breakup possible for the Czechs and Slovaks do not exist here. They could break cleanly on historical ethnic lines and be done with it. We have no such lines. Our lines are partisan, superficial, and we do not have any clean lines to draw without massive forced human migration.
I see. Yes, if and when it were to happen here, it’s going to involve some compromise, and it would require some people moving. No doubt about it.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 2:51 pm to Taxing Authority
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Which says a lot about how we’re not really as far apart as those harvesting division are preaching to us.
Most of us, yeah, but about there is a vocal extreme left that is totalitarian.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:17 pm to Tigerhalen
they don't want a break up. we are too valuable. IT's similar to the theory of the Matrix. If we try to leave, they will come after us. make no mistake, this is all about the power and control. Once they have complete control, they sell us out to big corporations and other countries for the money. They will sell out our lands/resources for profit, access to our info for profit, kill our industries so others can prosper for a profit. It's about putting us in a position where we can't do anything about it anymore and they are just about done with getting a stranglehold on the entire country.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:19 pm to tiggerthetooth
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The left doesn't want to break up, they want to dictate what the right does.
This
They want the labor and the land the right possess ("Flyover country") while they live in their castles reaping the rewards of our labor
Posted on 7/23/21 at 3:40 pm to Indefatigable
It seemed to me the most convenient of breakups. They seemed to evenly split the country right where "Chzecho" met "Slovakia" when written on a global map. 
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