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Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:20 am to TheGator
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:33 am to DelU249
I'm aware that we didn't enter the war to stop the german holocaust. That's why I pointed it out in my first post (the one you replied to...)
One benefit was that we stopped further attacks from the two countries that declared war on us.
One benefit was that we stopped further attacks from the two countries that declared war on us.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:42 am to Zach
The one we are in now against the left to save this country...
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:44 am to Zach
Lots of people have been invaded and defended their homeland.
Ask those who were defending the family and country and you will get a different answer every time I imagine.
Ask those who were defending the family and country and you will get a different answer every time I imagine.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:50 am to Zach
Napoleon defending France from the rest of Europe.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:51 am to BlackAdam
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The Crusades.
I think this deserves some explanation.
Why was it just or moral?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:52 am to AggieDub14
Don’t read much history do you?
Just curious, is the violence that has plagued the Middle East for millenniums because of the Europeans, or is it because of the inhabitants of the Middle East?
Just curious, is the violence that has plagued the Middle East for millenniums because of the Europeans, or is it because of the inhabitants of the Middle East?
Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:54 am to TheGator
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Posted on 4/3/19 at 11:56 am to jnethe1
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Just curious, is the violence that has plagued the Middle East for millenniums because of the Europeans, or is it because of the inhabitants of the Middle East?
This is a bit ignorant. Prior to WWI, Ottomans had peacefully ruled most of the current day middle east basically since the crusades without much drama.
Post WWI, the Europeans carved up most of the former Ottoman empire which turned into the mess we see today.
Ask yourself this- if the Ottomans hadnt fallen during WWI, do we have 9/11, Al Queda, the gulf war, Iraq Invasion, 6 day war, etc?
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 11:58 am
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:00 pm to Zach
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The most 'just' and 'moral' war in all of history
The ongoing war against abortion. Abortion has killed more human beings than all the wars put together.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:04 pm to NYNolaguy1
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Ottomans had peacefully ruled most of the current day middle east basically since the crusades without much drama.
Thats funny right there, i don't care who you are.
"The people were mostly submissive after we conquered their land and murdered anyone who resisted. After that, there was little drama."
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:10 pm to NYNolaguy1
So the Barbary coast war was about?
Also, what did President John Quincy Adams mean when he said this; “As the essential principle of his [Muhammad’s] faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.”
So in your opinion, the violence that plagues the Middle East is due solely to the breakup of the Ottoman Empire? Seems like a stretch to me.
Also, what did President John Quincy Adams mean when he said this; “As the essential principle of his [Muhammad’s] faith is the subjugation of others by the sword; it is only by force, that his false doctrines can be dispelled, and his power annihilated.”
So in your opinion, the violence that plagues the Middle East is due solely to the breakup of the Ottoman Empire? Seems like a stretch to me.
This post was edited on 4/3/19 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:12 pm to TheGator
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Are you saying we should have just left Hitler/Germany alone? Because that what it sounds like you are trying to say
He was a good boy, dindu nuffin, about to start art school.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:13 pm to Dale51
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Thats funny right there, i don't care who you are.
"The people were mostly submissive after we conquered their land and murdered anyone who resisted. After that, there was little drama."
Thats a fallacy. The greek orthodox christians lived in peace with the Turks/Arabs. In fact it was the Western 4th Crusade that sacked Greek Christian Constantinople on the way to the Holy Lands, in part because they felt they got along too well.
If you havent read up on this yet, I highly suggest this to catch you up.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:16 pm to jnethe1
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So the Barbary coast war was about?
I was referring to the Middle east as present day Israel, Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Iraq, not the North African coast, which was never a part of the Ottoman empire (but I suspect you know that).
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:17 pm to Zach
How nice would it be to have never had to hear about Karl Marx, Friedrich Engles, and Vladimir Lenin? Among others.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:19 pm to NYNolaguy1
Of course it wasn’t, I’m referring to the culture and religion that is at the heart of the two.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:19 pm to PsychTiger
My vote for the American war least covered in HS history classes: The French Indian War.
Hell, I didn't find out that George Washington fought for the British till decades after HS.
Hell, I didn't find out that George Washington fought for the British till decades after HS.
Posted on 4/3/19 at 12:21 pm to Wtodd
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But IRL it's probably WWII bc Hitler
Stalin was worse than Hitler and he was our ally.
If you lookout at it strictly geopolitical, Germany wanted no war with the west, and was after reversal of the Versailles Treaty with was unjust.
He wanted to destroy Communism, and the USSR and take gains in the East.
If Britain had not objected to German hegemony on the continent, Hitler and Stalin could have duked it out. Japan would not have attacked the US and Britain as neither would have been tied down by Germany.
It is arguable the Final solution was primarily a result of Hitler knowing the war was lost as before late 41 he was satisfied with removal from the Reich.
Democracy and British Imperialism made a devils pact with Communism and many paid the price.
I'd go with the pig war of 1859 as being the most moral, no one died and it created some bacon.
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