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re: The Medal of Honor is a participation trophy now
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:10 pm to son of arlo
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:10 pm to son of arlo
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Glad to see some lefties giving props to the military. You've come a long way since some of your ilk tried to prevent the VN War Memorial. I've long said one of the benefits of having a Dem President is the left won't shite on the military for a while.
wait are you calling me a lefty
btw im in the military jackass
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Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:10 pm to NikolaiJakov
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Race shouldn't be an issue.
You don't think race has been an issue in the past?
You don't think that it may have influenced the award during WW2? Vietnam? Korea?
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 4:11 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:10 pm to Godfather1
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I have served
I bet you did. Was it in the 40s, 50s, 60s, 70s??? No, it wasn't.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:14 pm to Godfather1
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I can assure you, that if these gentlemen were upgraded to the MOH, then they received, at a minimum at the time of their heroism, a DSC or Navy Cross.
Well that was a prerequisite
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:14 pm to Lakeboy7
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I bet you did.
And you'd win that bet, smart guy. I served in the 90s.
Nevertheless. I'm not some civilian throwing out an opinion.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:14 pm to Poodlebrain
The Wereth 11 of The 333rd Field Artillery Battalion
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:15 pm to Godfather1
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Nevertheless. I'm not some civilian throwing out an opinion.
true, but this doesn't apply to the time period you served. It applies to WW2, Korea, and Vietnam
I don't disagree that race shouldn't be an issue, but it would be foolish to believe that is hasn't been in the past
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:16 pm to Godfather1
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Nevertheless. I'm not some civilian throwing out an opinion.
Well the OP is, and he is trying to shite fellow brothers in arms.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:17 pm to StraightCashHomey21
I don't get how the Medal of Honor is awarded. My great grandpa received the Medal of Honor for his service during WWII.
He was a pilot and was on an escort mission over Japan. His plane had a fuel leak and wouldn't have enough fuel to get back, but he stayed. They were attacked by the Japanese. He shot 5 of them down covering the bomber they were escorting. Then his engine got shot and he had to bail.
He was in the water for hours before he was picked up by some tribesmen and they nursed his wounds as best they could and he stayed with them for a few days before help could come get him.
Now, that was pretty heroic... but how is what he did awarded a MOH and a soldier who is safe climbing back in a burning vehicle to save his men while getting 3rd degree burns on 90% of his body and ends up dying not awarded the MOH?
I don't get it.
He was a pilot and was on an escort mission over Japan. His plane had a fuel leak and wouldn't have enough fuel to get back, but he stayed. They were attacked by the Japanese. He shot 5 of them down covering the bomber they were escorting. Then his engine got shot and he had to bail.
He was in the water for hours before he was picked up by some tribesmen and they nursed his wounds as best they could and he stayed with them for a few days before help could come get him.
Now, that was pretty heroic... but how is what he did awarded a MOH and a soldier who is safe climbing back in a burning vehicle to save his men while getting 3rd degree burns on 90% of his body and ends up dying not awarded the MOH?
I don't get it.
This post was edited on 3/18/14 at 4:22 pm
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:19 pm to PrimeTime Money
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a soldier who is safe climbing back in a burning vehicle to save his men while getting 3rd degree burns on 90% of his body and ends up dying not awarded th
TBH, I'm not sure how somebody like that ISN'T awarded the MOH.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:20 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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wait are you calling me a lefty
Uh, yeah.
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btw im in the military jackass
They let errbody in these days if you're a protected group. Don't think so highly of yourself.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:22 pm to son of arlo
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Uh, yeah.
Well im not, I don't have a high tolerance for the bullshite the OP is pulling.
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They let errbody in these days if you're a protected group. Don't think so highly of yourself.
You are either a troll or some white trash.
When did you serve.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:25 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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white trash.
Nailed it
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:28 pm to StraightCashHomey21
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When did you serve.
USAF 1979-1995
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:29 pm to Lakeboy7
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Nailed it
Rut roh. Here comes the gay mafia crowd.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:33 pm to StraightCashHomey21
Black units were predominantly service and service support units. The relatively few combat arms units saw limited combat with few exceptions. It is one of the unfortunate truths of America's past. The military used to fight WWII discriminated against blacks. According to one well respected source, only 708 blacks were killed in combat during WWII.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 4:50 pm to Poodlebrain
Studs Terkel's book The Good War has some pretty telling exerpts from the black soldiers and their families perspective, yeah they were fricked plain and simple.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 5:12 pm to blueboy
Some of these are legitimate issues where, because of race the medals awarded were downgraded.
Posted on 3/18/14 at 8:33 pm to ChicagoTiger
quote:I'm "rancid?"
These people deserve their medal. You're fricking rancid for thinking otherwise. And if you believe they deserve the medal, change your post.
A lot of people deserve the honor. Why just these guys? What proof of racism or discrimination do they have? Answer - ZERO. So, today was just another race-baiting "injustice" that exists only in the minds of liberals and your dipshit president.
And I'll post whatever I want. For hopefully the last time, I repeat that it's not about the soldiers. It's about the race-baiting president and his class/sex/race war mentality.
So frick off.
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