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re: The Great Resegregation

Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:29 pm to
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:29 pm to
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How about the NFL? Any time a new head coach is needed they HAVE to, at least, interview a black candidate. Why not just interview the BEST candidate. It demeans a black head coaches qualifications. I think everyone would want to be hired based on talent and qualifications



9 of 32 head coaches of NFL teams are black.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59035 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:32 pm to
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This is different than what your OP was about. You said nobody on this board questions the qualifications of a white man.


In the context of the post, it is clear that means that no one claims that a white man got his job because he is a white man.

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I'm telling you that everybody I listed has been called unqualified at times on this board.
Fair enough.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59035 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:34 pm to
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Biden ( a white male) was unqualified to be President. I am pretty sure this entire board has been shouting this from the rooftops for 4 years.


unqualified and unfit are two different things.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59035 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:35 pm to
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You think people hire unqualified black people because they are black to save money?



If someone is hiring an unqualified person, it must be so they can pay that person less than a qualified person. What are you insinuating?
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
84146 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:37 pm to
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it must be so they can pay that person less than a qualified person
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46056 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:37 pm to
Statutorily as in a matter of policy. Not necessarily law.

Learn to comprehend the English language.

But Affirmative Action fits that bill if you really want to go there. Too bad for you the SCOTUS shite all over that.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125322 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:42 pm to
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If someone is hiring an unqualified person, it must be so they can pay that person less than a qualified person.


That would be as quick of a route to get sued as hiring white males.

“Hey, Tom. You can put the new hire in a lower pay band. He’s black.”
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
8047 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:44 pm to
i love when stupid threads like this one get anchored. it's the board equivalent of "you kids go outside if you're going to fight"
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
46237 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:45 pm to
Good post.
DEI accelerates the Peter Principle.
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
24595 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:46 pm to
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“Hey, Tom. You can put the new hire in a lower pay band. He’s black.”


Sure can, boss.
Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61970 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 12:49 pm to
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If someone is hiring an unqualified person, it must be so they can pay that person less than a qualified person.




Why must that be?
This post was edited on 3/12/25 at 12:50 pm
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59035 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:36 pm to
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Why must that be?



What's your hypothesis?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59035 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:38 pm to
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Statutorily as in a matter of policy. Not necessarily law.

Learn to comprehend the English language.



by definition, a statute is a law. maybe you should learn to comprehend the English language? Or learn the definitions of words? Or learn to use precise language?

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But Affirmative Action fits that bill if you really want to go there. Too bad for you the SCOTUS shite all over that.

Why too bad for me?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59035 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:42 pm to
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he civil rights act provides the entire foundation for granting protected status for minorities, sexual deviants, and women. It means that if a person in a protected class feels they have been wronged they can sue on that basis. This translates to private business, public institutions, etc.



This prevents discrimination, it doesn't require anyone to hire a minority or woman over a white man. If that were the case, no white men would be employed.
Posted by WhiteRussianDude
Member since Feb 2023
409 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:43 pm to
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unqualified and unfit are two different things.


Agreed. And he was both.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59035 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:46 pm to
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I bet you did. NPR? MSNBC?



It was a conversation with the author of a book I recently read on refugees.



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How about a realization of Dr. King's dream? A colorblind society based on merit? Is that off the table or just too difficult to imagine? Dr. King could imagine it.


I'm having a hard time understanding your claim about DEI. Do you believe DEI is a federal law that requires private companies to hire minorities over white people? What do you think DEI is?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
59035 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 1:49 pm to
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Agreed. And he was both.



Agreed, but he was no more unqualified or qualified than any other president.

Posted by moneyg
Member since Jun 2006
61970 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 2:02 pm to
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What's your hypothesis?


My "hypothesis" is that there are external forces "encouraging" the hiring of minority candidates who are not as qualified for their jobs. ESG is an example of an external force that has had a huge impact on the HR behavior of companies. Direct Government pressure via the procurement of government contracts/grants is another.

We see it in the University admissions process as well. White and Asians are 100% being discriminated against. It's simply the norm now. It's impossible to deny.
Posted by BuzzSaw 12
The Dark Side Of The Moon
Member since Dec 2010
6771 posts
Posted on 3/12/25 at 2:20 pm to
The Great Resegregation?

It's now official. You are dumber than Tboy. Congratulations!

Posted by ibleedprplngld
Lafayette, LA
Member since Jan 2012
4746 posts
Posted on 3/13/25 at 9:11 pm to
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What is DEI? What you're describing does not align with my understanding of DEI. Can you define what DEI is?


This is a great question actually, considering most don’t truly understand it. DEI, at the federal contracting level, is a requirement to document candidates and hires that equate to an ethnic group’s percentage of the population. There are several different ways it gets enforced. Mostly in actual contract and/or grant awards. As a contractor, you have to prove that your hiring practices align with that policy (this is an over simplification, but it’s difficult to explain in a short text format). Basically you end up curtailing your recruiting practices to try to meet these demands and it results in losing out on qualified candidates.

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If you're the employer, can't you determine what hiring practices you use?


You can to certain degree. But as I mentioned above, if you operate as a federal contractor, you will 100% lose out on work.

The other part of this is “woke” corporations who enforce the same type of rule on their contractors. Usually it’s cloaked in some Diverse Spend clause within contracts. Basically a percent of a contractor’s spend must be on DEI personnel.
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