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re: The foster care system is broken

Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:33 pm to
Posted by RollTide4Ever
Nashville
Member since Nov 2006
19695 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:33 pm to
Foster Care should be abolished.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
20465 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:34 pm to
Well of course the foster care system is broken. It's a government organization just like all the other poorly run government organizations State and Federal.

Want to fix it? privatize it.

I've filed so many complaints with our state senator and he admits my county is the worst and he refuses to address it.
Posted by alphaandomega
Tuscaloosa-Here to Serve
Member since Aug 2012
16729 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:43 pm to
After a child is taken from a parent for drug or jail, that parent should be held to an even higher standard that someone who fosters the child. It is crazy to just give the child back to these horrible people.

The crack head parent might really want to raise the child but the addiction will always be there.

They should be required to be clean (drug tested) for 6 months. They should have to be employed. And there home should be inspected weekly without prior notice.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37119 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:43 pm to
Sorry to hear that. I had friends who adopted a young kid that was abused by the mother's boyfriend, and the mother wasn't much better herself. Wound up adopting his sister when she was born. Then finally a younger brother was on the way. The mother tried to pull reunifying the family trick, but the state was terminating her parental rights and my friends wound up adopting her too. All 3 are well grown, the youngest just finishing up high school.

Is there any consideration to changing your mind on the 3rd child?
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 12:44 pm
Posted by AndyJ
Member since Jul 2008
3466 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:46 pm to
Even his follow up posts show he is a total piece of shite. Like one of the worst I’ve seen on here.
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4339 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:52 pm to
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I've never responded to a post here this way, but frick you



Did jesus tell you to say that?
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2075 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:53 pm to
I agree with you on everything you said, and the system sort of works that way. The mother will have submit to random drug testing for some time, and there will be numerous unannounced visits by social workers. What I'm not understanding in my situation is how is this even a remote possibility at this point, the mother has no job, and has no vehicle to get her to one. We don't have public transportation here so how is she going to get these kids around? And why the heck are they skipping all the normal steps and jumping straight to unsupervised weekends? The answer is the policy of keeping siblings together and they are ignoring the part where the rules says that they don't have to be kept together if it would harm one of the siblings. That's why I said earlier this could be fixed with some common sense.

I have no doubt the Mother loves her kids, she just hasn't proved to this point for any meaningful amount of time that she can kick the habit.
Posted by KCkid
Kansas City, Mo.
Member since Oct 2015
180 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 12:59 pm to
Missouri foster dad here. I've seen it numerous times where the case worker will blackmail you to take on another sibling born after you have taken in the originals. Hardly ever works out. I will say this, based on the last child we fostered/adopted. Mom was a baby making machine. Had already lost 3 to the system when we took the 4th child. Her and BF tried numerous times to get their act together, including having another one. Courts gave them every opportunity to "Re-unify". They just couldn't do it. Courts ended up taking the last child also (Born in another state). I agree you should consult an attorney to see your options. But I will bet Mom will NOT be able to keep a plan together to gain custody. They are perpetual slaves to the cycle. Very few can break out. My bet is time will weed her away from your life. It wont be easy for awile, but keep the faith. Good luck... (And yes, the system is a complete mess). I have a 15 YO daughter adopted young who has been in a residential home for the past 18 months. DNA is a hard thing to overcame...
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2075 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

Is there any consideration to changing your mind on the 3rd child?


To be honest, we've struggled with the two we are caring for now. One of the kids with us is developmentally behind due to neglect, lead exposure and drug use while the mother was pregnant. That said, he is quickly catching up now since he came to us. I don't think we would be able to give the attention and care to the two we have that they need, if we take on the third. Plus, we live in the sticks, the nearest hospital to us that provides the services the newborn will need is over an hour away. She needs to be closer than that.

When we got into this we said we'd take on one child, maybe two if they were siblings and we told the state we were looking for older than 6, we ended up with 2 under 5. Its been tough on our marriage and on my wife. She has fibromyalgia which limits her at times, adding a new born would be asking to much of her.
This post was edited on 7/13/22 at 1:13 pm
Posted by AgSGT
Dixon, MO
Member since Aug 2011
2075 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:07 pm to
Do you mind me asking what county you are in? I'm in Pulaski but the kids are from the neighboring county, Phelps
Posted by KCkid
Kansas City, Mo.
Member since Oct 2015
180 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 1:29 pm to
If you are asking me: I am in Clay County. (Kansas City area).
Posted by Cajun Tiger 4
Member since May 2018
418 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 3:58 pm to
Thank you for opening your heart and home to these precious children brother!
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
Member since Nov 2011
47869 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:03 pm to
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We just recently found out that when the state removed the kids, they were in a meth house that was so dirty you couldn't see the floors thru the trash. Our younger girl was in a diaper that hadn't been changed in days, and when the state workers asked where the diapers were the methed out grandmother couldn't find any clean ones as she sifted thru the trash. When they found the boy, he was sleeping in a bed with two loaded guns.


Parents/guardians in this situation should be shot. That is sickening.
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 7/13/22 at 5:10 pm to
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I referred to the OP as someone who tries to raise kids




Nope


quote:
is caring for




It's funny, i criticize you for not reading the original post, and you reply by not even reading your own post. Do you have dementia like Biden?



Hey dumbass, tge Original poster that I first replied to has responded to me in this thread calling you an a-hole.

Cam you fricking read?

quote:


It's funny, i criticize you for not reading the original post, and you reply by not even reading your own post. Do you have dementia like Biden?


Please point out what you are talking about or crawl back to your hiding spot because
A. You are not coherent
B. You keep asking questions that are. Not related to what you are talking about I assume because no one knows what the hell you are talking about.

Comparing me to Biden, reread the thread Einstein, I'm against abortion. Just stop embarrassing yourself
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:21 pm to
(no message)
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4339 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:47 pm to
quote:

Hey dumbass, tge Original poster that I first replied to has responded to me in this thread calling you an a-hole.


Cool, if i cared what overweight boomers thought about me, i obviously wouldn't post here.


quote:

Cam you fricking read?


I can read english, and a decent amount of italian. However with your atrocious typing ability, it's not super easy.

quote:

You keep asking questions that are. Not related to what you are talking about I assume because no one knows what the hell you are talking about.


My point exactly.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 12:48 pm
Posted by Wardniner01
Member since Dec 2020
2537 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 12:57 pm to
Nit pick about typing on a message board but still never answered the original question I posed.

Bye, this is a waste of time. Typical liberal.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 1:00 pm
Posted by j1897
Member since Nov 2011
4339 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 1:24 pm to
Bruh, you are bumping this thread with no message because you're so devoted to it. Oh but it's a waste of time. I'm gonna go do some work, so you'll have to get along without me. It's also almost certain i will forget about this thread again, because i really don't care.
This post was edited on 7/18/22 at 1:25 pm
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
1990 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:03 pm to
I’m sorry you’re going through this my friend, you did everything right, you seem to be a loving and wonderful home for at least two children. Now they want to throw all three out into a terrible situation. I appreciate everything you’re doing and keep fighting. In my opinion this is why abortions should be available so that this lady could’ve had one and this baby with syphilis and drug addiction wouldn’t be suffering right now, but that’s the way it is right now .
Posted by Craig86
Florida
Member since Oct 2012
1990 posts
Posted on 7/18/22 at 3:08 pm to
I’m just now reading through the forum and seeing some of the post, I think it’s lovely that you want to fix the foster system and make it better for all children. I don’t mean to sound crude but when someone is suffering irreversibly, and by that I mean syphilis and drug addiction and no support system, That’s not right. This child was forced to be born into a horrifically painful situation, and it’s nice to sit here and say well the foster system can be better but right now it’s not for that child right now that child is in agony as we sit here comfortably typing. Unfortunately the decision should have been made to abort that child very early on in that pregnancy. Everyone knew how the child was going to turn out, the mother didn’t care and she should be back in prison for negligence and reckless endangerment.

This child should never have been born into this situation, it was 100% preventable in a multitude of ways. The last option should’ve been abortion but it should’ve been an option. Now we can all sit here and talk about stuff while the baby writhes in agony and suffering pain. I hope we are all happy with ourselves.
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