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The "Fake Science" of COVID-19 --- Is death rate 1%? 1/10th of 1%? 1/1000th/ Who knows??
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:56 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:56 am
We have NO CLUE of how many Americans have defeated the virus with their own God-given antibodies.
We can not possibly know how serious this virus is without testing asymptomatic people who have had the virus antibodies in their system - and are perfectly healthy.
Let's hope president Trump pens an Executive Order to begin these baseline tests immediately!
If the rate is below the common fly, then let's get America back to work!
We now have the excess testing capacity. Let's go. Fauci and Brix should be screaming for this data!
We can not possibly know how serious this virus is without testing asymptomatic people who have had the virus antibodies in their system - and are perfectly healthy.
Let's hope president Trump pens an Executive Order to begin these baseline tests immediately!
If the rate is below the common fly, then let's get America back to work!
We now have the excess testing capacity. Let's go. Fauci and Brix should be screaming for this data!
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 10:58 am
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Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:57 am to Buckeye Jeaux
m u h t e s t i n g
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:57 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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testing asymptomatic people
For some reason they have been dead set against this.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 10:59 am to back9Tiger
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For some reason they have been dead set against this.
Because tests have been limited and a positive test can alter treatment protocols. Not that hard to understand.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:00 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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Fauci and Brix should be screaming for this data!
Antibody testing is a different test than the one they are using for infection testing.
They will get the antibody testing out to do representative samples of apparently uninfected, but not right now. It will probably start soon enough, though. Maybe even May or Early June.
That's a cost effective way to do it, but no rush right now during a firefight with an active pandemic. A fight we're winning, and winning easily I might add.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:00 am to YipSkiddlyDooo
Yeah, but you don't know the D, so no its a little more complex than that. Once the anti-body test come back than we'll find out how big a scam this was... it was always a scam, just a matter of how big.
This post was edited on 3/26/20 at 11:01 am
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:00 am to back9Tiger
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For some reason they have been dead set against this.
They had a shortage of testing supplies at one time.
That excuse no longer exists. They could test 10,000 or 20,000 asymptomatic people a day now with ease.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:02 am to back9Tiger
Because it isn't practically possible. Should be obvious that the logistics of mass testing is well beyond the capacity of the medical system. Not only asymptomatic but those that had very minor symptoms that where passed off as colds or other illnesses.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:04 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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We have NO CLUE of how many Americans have defeated the virus with their own God-given antibodies.
Assuming there is a test that can identify a person who has had and built an immunity to the virus, it seems like some targeted statistical sampling could be done VERY quickly and would have a HUGE impact on how we move forward.
There is no way that value of that data wouldn't justify the cost.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:04 am to Ace Midnight
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Maybe even May or Early June.
This country could be nearly destroyed by May or Early June.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:05 am to Ace Midnight
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They will get the antibody testing out to do representative samples of apparently uninfected, but not right now. It will probably start soon enough, though. Maybe even May or Early June.
I think every resource available to push this date up should be used.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:08 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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This country could be nearly destroyed by May or Early June.
Well, they're not going to complete the research on the actual spread of the infection for years. That won't be the downfall of the country. The panic is.
And the panic will die down once folks aren't dying. That is just a couple of weeks away from waning, and waning significantly. CA is already through their curve and New York is peaking. That's 1/6 of the population right there. Throw in Florida, Texas and PA going through their's - that's better 1/3 of the national population.
The virus itself will barely be a story in June, but the impact (i.e. panic fallout) will still be significant.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:14 am to Ace Midnight
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The virus itself will barely be a story in June, but the impact (i.e. panic fallout) will still be significant.
The Panic was started by the head of the World Health Organization and Rod Rosenstein's sister at CDC.
The near total shutdown of the world's economy is a very very real.
We can NOT wait til May or June or July.
Time for an Executive Order from President Trump
The antibody tests are ready waiting and able.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:15 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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A lab in Idaho has "gone maverick" and is already testing medical workers for COVID-19 antibodies.
And I think this is smart - conventional wisdom is out the window for this case, and places with few, if any problems, should test for antibodies if they have the resources (material, personnel, time). They either have a bunch of folks who were infected and didn't know it or they don't.
Either bit of information is valuable in an area not currently affected. Most of the middle of the country should do this, too. Expand it if they can to first responders, folks with flu-like disease over the past 60/90 days who tested negative for the flu, etc. Start building the data now to know what to expect.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:17 am to Buckeye Jeaux
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A lab in Idaho has "gone maverick" and is already testing medical workers for COVID-19 antibodies.
Mixing "maverick" results from across the country and the world would lead to confounded results. For accuracy, a test needs to be validated and used ubiquitously.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:22 am to Buckeye Jeaux
quote:Their working number is and has been a 0.6-0.7% CFR.
Fauci and Brix should be screaming for this data!
quote:We know very well how serious it is by the number of vent pts it generates, regardless of population penetrance.
We can not possibly know how serious this virus is without testing asymptomatic people who have had the virus antibodies in their system - and are perfectly healthy.
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:23 am to NC_Tigah
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We know very well how serious it is by the number of vent pts it generates, regardless of population penetrance.
lots of armchair epidemiologists will be here shortly to call you an idiot and a hypothesized large swath of asymptomatic people somehow makes those vent patients not exist
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:23 am to guedeaux
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Mixing "maverick" results from across the country and the world would lead to confounded results. For accuracy, a test needs to be validated and used ubiquitously.
'Maverick' means in defiance of idiotic gameplans from the CDC, NIH, and WHO. This is a highly competent lab who is calling bullshite on the politicized government "Health" organizations
Posted on 3/26/20 at 11:24 am to back9Tiger
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For some reason they have been dead set against this.
Not everyone that sneezes in public has it, but since they are showing symptoms, everyone would like them tested first.
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