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re: The equal exchange between employer and employee yet one is taxed. Why?

Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:45 am to
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
56756 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:45 am to
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But you can bet your last dollar payroll tax percentages are far less than my income tax percentages.

Far less!! How it it fair to employees?


Google, FICA/FUTA/SUTA.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 10:46 am
Posted by stout
Porte du Lafitte
Member since Sep 2006
179061 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:45 am to
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yet one is taxed.


FYI, both are taxed. A business has to pay the Government a tax just to employ you
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17216 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:48 am to
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wow until this moment i'd given you the benefit of the doubt that you had a modicum of average intelligence that is no longer the case.


Thank you very much.

Posted by Prodigal Son
Member since May 2023
1598 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 10:53 am to
Start your own company. The only thing stopping you- is you.
Posted by Cotten
Tennessee
Member since Jan 2018
1726 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:10 am to
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But the employee is a lone entity who has to pay a tax on what he or she provides the employer.

You're just factually wrong here. No other way to put it baw. Sorry. I certainly pay quarterly FICA taxes on what my employees "provide".
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The employee is in a 25% bracket. Please show me the box on the tax form whereas the employer also is taxed at 25% for receiving the labor or skill set from the employee.

What? Dude...you quite obviously don't own a business nor have any understanding whatsoever on how taxes on corps work. You're just tossing out random numbers now. Literally random

If you do actually own a business, you need to be on the phone with your Accountant or whoever pays your taxes like, now. Immediately; because you have ZERO clue on any of the numbers of your "business" and that should be giving you a borderline heart attack if you had any sense.
This post was edited on 11/24/25 at 11:12 am
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
16075 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:42 am to
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How is it leftist to be anti-tax? Please, do tell.......


Uhh… your entire premise to this thread is asking why an exchange from employee to employer is not taxed while the other is.

You were shown that effectively it is and any kind of further tax on that exchange is an asinine prospect.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17216 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 11:59 am to


I guess we can start at FICA 7.65% on compensation and $42 per employee. I will see if I know anyone employed who is only paying a rate of 7.65% tax plus $42 on their wages up to $132,000 to the IRS.
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94664 posts
Posted on 11/24/25 at 5:49 pm to
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But the employee is a lone entity who has to pay a tax on what he or she provides the employer.


You've got a problem with the Constitution (as amended), then. The tax on income is levied by the taxing authority.

Just as an employee has certain deductions from that income that reduce taxation, the employer has deductions from his income that reduce taxation, among them are the wages he pays employees.

I get that you're trying to make a point here, but it is a point that can't really be made. The employer, who pays for everything - the raw materials, the tools, the health plan, the 401k match, his half of the payroll tax, THE WAGES, and, G-d forbid, he make a little profit, he pays ALL of that. The employee has some deductions on payday that many will get most/all back in April. There is nothing for the employer to be taxed on that he is not already paying taxes on, my guy.

FFS, try to make some sense.
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