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Posted on 10/30/21 at 3:11 am to Taxing Authority
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Holy isht. I'm getting dumber trying to argue with you.
I had to write out an entire paragraph explaining why something wasn't an 'et tu' fallacy. I'm the one who should be getting exasperated here.
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Sure. Lots of jobs where one can be a fighter pilot or tank driver. Thoase jobs are ALLL OVER the place.
You can work in more than one industry. I want to be a fighter pilot - that doesn't mean I get to work in one. There are plenty of industries and plenty of jobs in multiple industries. From retail entry-level to office-based jobs, the industry you work in and the specific role is a choice.
You've further demonstrated why it is a choice.
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If a hotel wouldn't let you stay there, just go to another one! Lunch counter won't serve you... just go to another one! It's a choice! Good grief.
Good grief, getting vaccinated or getting tested isn't a protected class. One can get vaccinated fairly easily and one can get tested.
If anything, you're just making the argument that more employers should allow their employees to get tested (which is something I completely support).
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Now do florists and photographers.
Because one has to work as a florist or a photographer. This is still a choice. The onus is on you to demonstrate that it isn't a choice.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 3:18 am to GMON
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I had to write out an entire paragraph explaining why something wasn't an 'et tu' fallacy. I'm the one who should be getting exasperated here.
you're boring. quote:We aren't talking about people that want roles. We are talking about people with established careers in those roles that will lose their ability to make a living. If you think a 60 year old surgeon is going to change careers on a dime... I'm going to laugh (more) at you.
I want to be a fighter pilot - that doesn't mean I get to work in one.
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You've further demonstrated why it is a choice.
Nope. quote:Whoooooshhhhh.
Good grief, getting vaccinated or getting tested isn't a protected class. One can get vaccinated fairly easily and one can get tested.
quote:Whooooossshhhh. x2.
Because one has to work as a florist or a photographer. This is still a choice. The onus is on you to demonstrate that it isn't a choice.
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 3:23 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 3:22 am to TrueTiger
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Yeah, I'm done playing with the NPC.
Me too. It was fun for a while. I managed to make a post it didn't reply to. Notice I said it. I didn't want to assume its gender or anything. I think I actually did in one post though... Oh shite. LOL
Posted on 10/30/21 at 3:27 am to Taxing Authority
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We aren't talking about people that want roles. We are talking about people with established careers in those roles that will lose their ability to make a living. If you think a 60 year old surgeon is going to change careers on a dime... I'm going to laugh (more) at you.
Just because they won't, doesn't mean they can't.
A 60-year-old surgeon can work in a job where they can get tested.
This is still a choice. You've not made the leap here.
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Whooooossshhhh.
Lmao. You've literally tried to say that it wasn't a choice and then listed out points that demonstrated it was a choice. You've now latched onto the idea that people *won't* want to leave their jobs - that doesn't mean they can't hence there's no disputing of the choice argument there.
But we're going to talk in circles at this point. I can predict the conversation from here - you bringing up more points that further demonstrate the choice aspect of this and me pointing that out. I think we've exhausted the discussion here.
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 3:29 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 3:33 am to GMON
quote:Maybe they can even move up to burger flipper if they really work at it.
A 60-year-old surgeon can work in a job where they can get tested.
quote:Nope. They don't call it a mandate for nothing.
This is still a choice.
quote:The fact you think that... is why you got the wooooshhh.
You've literally tried to say that it wasn't a choice and then listed out points that demonstrated it was a choice
This post was edited on 10/30/21 at 3:34 am
Posted on 10/30/21 at 3:38 am to Taxing Authority
quote:Did you explain to him what that meant?
got the wooooshhh.
He’s not exactly the brightest crayon in the box
Posted on 10/30/21 at 3:43 am to llfshoals
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He’s not exactly the brightest crayon in the box
Dude, you literally wanted Biden to direct the FBI to prosecute and investigate certain individuals.
You do realize how dangerous that is, right? You're not exactly the brightest crayon in the box when you inadvertently start arguing for Biden to politically influence investigations.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 4:03 am to GMON
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You're not exactly the brightest crayon in the box when you inadvertently start arguing for Biden to politically influence investigations.
Derp.
Biden has already done this.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 4:04 am to GMON
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Because one has to work as a florist or a photographer. This is still a choice. The onus is on you to demonstrate that it isn't a choice.
So the government could mandate a pledge of allegiance to Zeus to get a license to have a small business and if you didn’t pledge allegiance to Zeus you were still free because you had a choice not to pledge to Zeus.
fricking dickless idiot.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 4:18 am to the808bass
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So the government could mandate a pledge of allegiance to Zeus to get a license to have a small business and if you didn’t pledge allegiance to Zeus you were still free because you had a choice not to pledge to Zeus.
If you're going to use analogies, compare like for like.
Government mandating a pledge of allegiance to Zeus or getting tested for a disease that harms Zeus in order for you to work at a small business would be the equivalent analogy. Not all small businesses may offer testing but some do. Harming Zeus would harm all of society.
You are free to work at a small business that does allow testing for this disease. This is a choice you make.
You don't have to pledge allegiance to Zeus but you can choose to get tested, work at a place that allows testing, or choose to retire. The government isn't forcing you to pledge allegiance to Zeus when alternatives exist.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 4:31 am to goldennugget
Hey nugget, the GOP establishment have always felt this way.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 4:32 am to goldennugget
Nobody is voting for pence or haley. Two dog race either desantis or trump. Everyone else will be single digit polling
Posted on 10/30/21 at 5:09 am to GMON
quote:Criminals.
Dude, you literally wanted Biden to direct the FBI to prosecute and investigate certain individuals.
You know, their job is to prosecute those right?
He’s politically intervened already by calling committing crimes which support his agenda part of the process.
Or do you think it’s ok to commit crimes against people who oppose your agenda? Apparently you do.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 5:18 am to GMON
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The government isn't forcing you to pledge allegiance to Zeus when alternatives exist.
As to the actual issue at hand, yes, alternatives may exist, but in many cases there would potentially be significant loss(es) in play, retirement for example. So if the person is in that job at the time, with things of value hanging in the balance, it's more of an ultimatum than a choice.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 5:19 am to llfshoals
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You know, their job is to prosecute those right?
Their job is to prosecute criminals but it's not Biden's job to say who is and who isn't criminal. If Biden did that, you're effectively saying it's okay for him to determine who is and isn't criminal. If you can't see how that's dangerous, I don't know what to tell you. Future leaders could build on that precedent and arrest their opponents.
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He’s politically intervened already by calling committing crimes which support his agenda part of the process.
Biden didn't say that at all - he said that following someone into the bathroom was not appropriate. He said that [public protests] were part of the process, which I also agree with.
It's also not the same thing as directing the FBI to investigate which you seem to want him to do. The FBI has to make the decision to investigate on their own.
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Or do you think it’s ok to commit crimes against people who oppose your agenda? Apparently you do.
No, I don't. But I think public protests are allowed. Going into a bathroom and protesting isn't a crime. It's not appropriate but it's not a crime either.
But apparently, you want a leader telling the FBI what to investigate and who to arrest.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 7:48 am to GMON
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Vaccines are a health issue.
Until they become a precursor to your employment. Then you gave more state involvement in the economy.
Posted on 10/30/21 at 7:57 am to goldennugget
quote:There is never any downside when a representative of the Liberal Lunacy is prevented from holding public office.
The downside of Youngkin winning
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:31 am to tigerpawl
There isn’t a downside of Youngkin winning, the dems will get the message and hopefully stop their rush to commmumisum
Posted on 10/30/21 at 8:47 am to goldennugget
Everyone knows that Northern Virginia is dominated by those who work in DC. Cooch could have won if he had only gone to the large Korean areas of NoVA and just asked for their votes. He never campaigned there at all, due he has always been a puppet of the Ryun Brothers campaign empire.
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