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re: The Decline of Coal
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:09 pm to dbbuilder79
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:09 pm to dbbuilder79
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Personally, I'd love to see regulations that require houses of certain square footage to have solar. If someone can afford a $700,000 house, they can afford $25,000-$30,000 in solar tiles.
Ok, Biden. What a commie.
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Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:11 pm to doubleb
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Where does solar power rank? More or less expensive than coal?
It depends on whether you ask the green tooth fairy or an engineer.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:16 pm to SmileyVamp
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Solar Farm Fact Sheet
The SAS solar farm sits on almost 12 acres adjacent to the new Executive Briefing Center. There are 10,276 solar panels producing more than 3.6 million kilowatt hours annually. That's enough power for more than 325 average sized U.S. homes.
Maybe im mistaken, but it doesnt seem like you get alot from solar when you can only power 325 homes from 12 acres.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:19 pm to SmileyVamp
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If you are interested, the YouTube channel Venture City has posted a video on the growing usage and development of solar energy and the concept of a solar city may become a reality. New technologies like solar roofs, solar windows, etc. are making their way to the market.
Source:LINK
how would this work when you dont have sun?
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:25 pm to dgnx6
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how would this work when you dont have sun?
How does gas work when there's a local shortage?
How does nuclear work if there's an enriched uranium shortage?
Someone once said:
"The sun comes up, the sun goes down, every day. You can't stop it!"
- Bill O'Reilly
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:35 pm to dgnx6
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3.6 million kilowatt hours annually. That's enough power for more than 325 average sized U.S. homes.
edit my math was wrong lol
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 2:51 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 2:38 pm to dgnx6
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how would this work when you dont have sun?
Systems aren't designed based on perfectly sunny days. Rather they're designed on an average solar resource factor for that given lat/long. Its not perfect, but with properly sized storage it can significantly decrease and in some cases eliminate reliance on the grid.
One huge impact people forget when talking about resi solar is the benefits of point of demand generation. That reduction in grid load could be a game changer for growth.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 3:10 pm to Arkapigdiesel
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Ok, Biden. What a commie
I never said "coal bad". But they are shutting down plants left and right here in southern Nevada. I can't stop it.
A lot of my friends have lost their jobs at those plants.
The truth is, tho, southern california is stealing power from southern Nevada. They are constantly trying to buy more power from the hoover dam. Until they have a way to store their solar power, they will constantly have shortages.
My proposal is no different than requiring fire sprinklers in houses out here because of the lack of infrastructure in the water lines. There's just not enough pressure in a lot of areas to support a fire hydrant.
But I'm sure something like that is a communist policy as well.
Ignorance isn't bliss. It just shows you're ignorant
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:11 pm to dbbuilder79
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Ignorance isn't bliss. It just shows you're ignorant
No, it just shows that the poster like me does not want, or need our government to decide what I should be able to afford, or where my energy dhould come from, that should be left for basic economics to determine.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:14 pm to SmileyVamp
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solar have become quite competitive
bullshite
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:16 pm to EA6B
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No, it just shows that the poster like me does not want, or need our government to decide what I should be able to afford, or where my energy dhould come from, that should be left for basic economics to determine.
So the irony is that you will stay captive to centralized power instead of being independent and able to power yourself.
You do you, man. Fight the power!
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:19 pm to Lee B
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Natural Gas is much cheaper to extract
This will not be true anymore after Beijing Biden kills fracking
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:20 pm to dbbuilder79
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but if coal is being replaced by solar (which is why california is having massive brown-outs)
Hold up.
Gee...now I see why we need more solar.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:21 pm to Miketheseventh
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U.S. coal-fired power plants closing fast despite Trump's pledge of support for industry
Hey dumb assssssssss. It takes over ten years to obtain the permits, enviro mpact, native American BS not including Architecture and Engineering to design then start turning dirt to build a Power Plant.
It's too bad you are too stupid to realize all this started before Trump was in office .....
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:22 pm to DMAN1968
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bullshite
Taking an absolute stance on either side of solar is flawed logic. The reality is that in some instances it can be quite competitive and exceed other generation types while in other instances it is a less than ideal solution. Its highly dependent on the circumstances.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:24 pm to SmileyVamp
Source: LINK
Wind power overtakes coal in Texas electricity generation
From the Financial Times, wind power has officially beaten coal in the State of Texas. This further shows that coal is struggling to compete with alternatives.
States like Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Wyoming are considered gold mines when it comes to wind energy. Expect this energy source to continue to grow considerably in these states.
Wind power overtakes coal in Texas electricity generation
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Wind power surged past coal in Texas’ electricity mix for the first time in 2020, the latest sign of renewable energy’s rising prominence in America’s fossil fuel heartland.
Texas has been at the forefront of a surge in wind power construction across the US, pulling in tens of billions of dollars in capital investment over the past decade and rapidly expanding electricity generation from the fuel. Surging investment and job creation has helped the renewables sector win political backing in the state despite it being home to the country’s oil and gas sector.
Wind turbines generated nearly a quarter of Texas’ power in 2020, beating out coal’s roughly 18 per cent share of the market, making it the second-largest source of generation in the state behind natural gas, according to data from the Electric Reliability Council of Texas (Ercot), the state’s main grid operator.
From the Financial Times, wind power has officially beaten coal in the State of Texas. This further shows that coal is struggling to compete with alternatives.
States like Texas, Kansas, Oklahoma, and Wyoming are considered gold mines when it comes to wind energy. Expect this energy source to continue to grow considerably in these states.
This post was edited on 1/12/21 at 4:30 pm
Posted on 1/12/21 at 4:27 pm to SmileyVamp
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Wind power overtakes coal in Texas electricity generation
And FYI the Trump admin has blocked quite a bit of wind development in high yield areas, so deployment may accelerate quickly.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 6:21 pm to bluedragon
This is what I said
Explain what this has to do with fracking
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This will not be true anymore after Beijing Biden kills fracking [/quote
WTF are you talking about. Believe me I know how the process is when trying to build power plants. I worked in one for 34 years.
This is what you said.
[quote]Hey dumb assssssssss. It takes over ten years to obtain the permits, enviro mpact, native American BS not including Architecture and Engineering to design then start turning dirt to build a Power Plant. It's too bad you are too stupid to realize all this started before Trump was in office .....
Explain what this has to do with fracking
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:15 pm to Lee B
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So the irony is that you will stay captive to centralized power instead of being independent and able to power yourself.
Having the government mandate that since I have a $700k house I will be required to roof it with solar panels doesn’t sound much like being independent to choose where my energy comes from.
Posted on 1/12/21 at 7:21 pm to SmileyVamp
Coal is dead for a reason and it’s not the fault of liberal policies or perceived failures of Trump.
I feel bad for the average Joe in the coal industry but shite son why would we not use natural gas?
I feel bad for the average Joe in the coal industry but shite son why would we not use natural gas?
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