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re: The cult of ignorance in the United States: Anti-intellectualism

Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:40 am to
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:40 am to


I am just going to leave this here.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49548 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:43 am to
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I'm rarely annoyed by a dumb person who is wrong. People like Maxine Waters and her ilk just make me laugh and wouldn't bother me at all if they weren't in positions to affect decisions.

But for my entire adult life I have watched people who I know without a doubt are educated enough to know they're lying lie their asses off because they know people will buy it.


Absolute truth here.

This is why I always try to distinguish the run-of-the-mill ignorance of the common democrats from the DEM leadership. The leadership absolutely KNOWs what they are saying is mendacious - their only intent is to mislead the ignorant masses, and to make it more and more difficult for the masses to get a real education. They shunt them into their academic ivory towers where only the DEM leadership agenda is accepted as the 'true way.'

We really need to do something to break this cycle.
Posted by uway
Member since Sep 2004
33109 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:45 am to
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The goal of progressives is the dumbest population possible, why they 100% control education.

They want to be seen as the saviors riding in to rescue us from strife.

Where there isn't any strife, they strive to create it.
Posted by CptRusty
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:47 am to
Yes, please, continue framing those of opposing viewpoints as intellectually inferior morons.

Ask Hillary Clinton how that turns out.
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
63500 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:53 am to
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We're creating a world of dummies. Angry dummies who feel they have the right, the authority and the need not only to comment on everything, but to make sure their voice is heard above the rest, and to drag down any opposing views through personal attacks, loud repetition and confrontation."
No doubt. Look at those that would have you believe that men can magically morph into women and vice-versa. Anti-science deniers that are pushy, loud and celebrated.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:56 am to
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Yes, please, continue framing those of opposing viewpoints as intellectually inferior morons.


You mean the 77% of the Oklahoma high school students who can't name the first president - have a different -viewpoint- than I do?

I should have suspected as much.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
49548 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:58 am to
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How many of you guys with advanced degrees and specialized knowledge are offering to teach HS kids?

I made a stab at that. After 35 years in aerospace industry and 15 years (10 yrs overlapped my last years in aerospace) as private business, I retired and went back to my home town. After 3 years (spent restoring a historical home) i decided to do my 'give back' work and become a high school math teacher. My alma mater had given me a great head start, and I wanted to do my part to carry it forward.

I was completely shocked at the cultural devolution in the 50 years since I graduated. But I stuck with it for 12 years and those were the most rewarding years of my life measured by my interactions with my students, but the most frustrating years of my life dealing with the bureaucracy. The advent of common core drove me away - I could no longer contend with the absurdity and stress of trying to keep up with the silliness of the BESE board and devote enough time to my students, so I retired.

I still advocate for retired businessmen and professionals to lend their talents to their local high schools. But do it sooner than I did. Getting into that after the age of 65 is not for the weak. And once the curriculum changes get settled out, it could be a very rewarding experience for both you and your students.
Posted by TideCPA
Member since Jan 2012
14128 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 8:59 am to
I think this is just a product of our modern society. Since the dawn of time, mankind has had unmatched curiosity, which is what led us to the top of the food chain. Culturally it wasn't enough to simply know that the sun rose every day, or that friction caused heat, or that we got sick occasionally. We had a burning desire to know why all those things happened, which is what led to every single technological leap in history. Now that we have nearly infinite information at our fingertips, it's much easier to substitute rote memorization and regurgitation for critical thought. The answer to any question is completely binary and taken at face value because, hey, it says so right here on my phone.
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49420 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:02 am to
I remember you speaking about this before. First off, I do think it's awesome and know that kids really will open up to someone they trust intellectually. I feel like people who have a tremendous amount of education and experience in a field other than higher ed can easily eastablish that trust with teenagers.

I do think your obstacles are not rare for those in the public system. We need a new way of thinking about education in this country as a whole but working within the current public system will render that process nearly impossible.
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
11740 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:11 am to
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You mean the 77% of the Oklahoma high school students who can't name the first president - have a different -viewpoint- than I do?


How many inner city Detroit high school students do you think would fare any better with the questions posed?

You are once again conflating political preference with intelligence. This is foolishness.
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:31 am to
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You mean the 77% of the Oklahoma high school students who can't name the first president - have a different -viewpoint- than I do?

How many inner city Detroit high school students do you think would fare any better with the questions posed?


That's not germane. Plus, they live here right? They are part of the future.
Posted by CptRusty
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 4/21/17 at 9:35 am to
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That's not germane.



Of course it is. Obviously you can find ignorant morons on either side of the aisle, so it behooves you to not blanketly paint your political opposites as idiots, lest you forget there are plenty of idiots on your own "side".
Posted by WhiskeyPapa
Member since Aug 2016
9277 posts
Posted on 4/21/17 at 12:03 pm to
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That's not germane.

Of course it is. Obviously you can find ignorant morons on either side of the aisle, so it behooves you to not blanketly paint your political opposites as idiots, lest you forget there are plenty of idiots on your own "side".



They are not 'idiots' because they never heard of George Washington.

You can't even identify the issue.
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