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re: The Conservative Myth of a Social Safety Net Built on Charity
Posted on 3/24/14 at 5:05 pm to Zach
Posted on 3/24/14 at 5:05 pm to Zach
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1. Link?
Here's a good link for you to play around with
Ironically enough it was $652.6B in 2007 the year before the election. And 2 years after we were attacked on 9/11 it was $482.9B. We aren't at war with anyone anymore (supposedly, so I'm told).
Plus, in the words of our immortal leader, "we have aircraft carriers now not bayonets".
What is the breakdown of that defense spending? You can even click through to see the breakdown. Spoiler alert:
Buying stuff to blow shite up: $98B
R&D/Testing: $78B
Operation & Maintenance all branches: $221.2B
Paying our troops and executives: $138.1B
This only adds up to $535.3B.
I'm all for a strong America, but it costs a lot to cover europe so they can spend their money on social programs and make our liberals think we can do it over here.
This post was edited on 3/24/14 at 5:08 pm
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Posted on 3/24/14 at 5:11 pm to Zach
Posted on 3/24/14 at 5:12 pm to Zach
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Yes.
and that shows what?
Posted on 3/24/14 at 5:17 pm to Hawkeye95
Your first link shows a dramatic decrease...first graph. From 2010 till today. Do you even read your links?
Posted on 3/24/14 at 5:23 pm to Godfather1
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As opposed to the liberal myth of a government run social safety net that doesn't turn into a hammock.
Nope.
As opposed to a society free of a criminal monetary system, free of large federal governments, free of corporate oligopolies, free of a political state, free of fascist corporate/government relationships, free of the class structure (this will surely be misunderstood), ect ect, I could go on for awhile.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:25 pm to Cole Beer
I think the best balance is a free market providing the utmost opportunity for all people, combined with a small safety net, with strict guidelines to minimize fraud, to keep people from being starving or homeless.
The "war on poverty" is fricking dumb. You can't take from the productive and bring others into the middle class. They will still remain poor, and all our large welfare state does is incentivize laziness.
I know poor people, they have the mindset that they can't do any better, they have low self esteem, and they stay on welfare because in their mind their standard of living will never improve, so why work their arse off for it?
Welfare should be below a full time minimum wage job, there has to be some hurt for the person to feel, there has to be a natural incentive to go get a job and improve your lifestyle.
The "war on poverty" is fricking dumb. You can't take from the productive and bring others into the middle class. They will still remain poor, and all our large welfare state does is incentivize laziness.
I know poor people, they have the mindset that they can't do any better, they have low self esteem, and they stay on welfare because in their mind their standard of living will never improve, so why work their arse off for it?
Welfare should be below a full time minimum wage job, there has to be some hurt for the person to feel, there has to be a natural incentive to go get a job and improve your lifestyle.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 6:46 pm to Cole Beer
The Founders and Framers never intended for FedGov to have the authority and function to collect taxes for charitable purposes.
If you Left Wingers want to amend the Constitution, we should have forced you to do it in the lawful manner prescribed in the Constitution, instead of by intellectually dishonest means.
If you Left Wingers want to amend the Constitution, we should have forced you to do it in the lawful manner prescribed in the Constitution, instead of by intellectually dishonest means.
Posted on 3/24/14 at 7:11 pm to Sleeping Tiger
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free of the class structure (this will surely be misunderstood)
Don't expand on that or anything. Please. Just leave it vague.
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