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The Bill is Terrible. Will it be around forever?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:19 am
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:19 am
I got on the Trump Train at the escalator. I’m not getting off. I’m not giving up my sparkle coat. Or my Jan 2015 vintage MAGA Hat. I believe in the POTUS, but he can’t MAGA without CONGRESS. And Congress sent him a shitbomb.
The problems are that it: 1) restricts places where he can build the wall (I don’t see how he can Emergency declare away a part of the law); 2) gives amnesty and immunity from prosecution to anybody who shows up with a minor (THE WORST PART); 3) defers the power of the federal government to enforce borders to random local mayors.
This is amnesty and sanctuary cities all along the border. It is frickED UP.
Even if Trump declares a national emergency and builds the wall - the wall will have gigantic holes in it in various federal parks, and anywhere a local mayor wants to say no. Plus. We’re just encouraging human trafficking. We’re saying. Find a random toddler. Drag it across the dessert. You have a get out of jail free card, and welfare for life.
The law makes the wall useless. If it’s concrete or slats or whatever. We can’t throw these POS OUT if they get in.
It makes no. Logical. Sense. I think the National Emergency Declaration is a terrible idea, but If I were advising Trump, I would advise him to Veto, and send it back to the House and Senate and tell them if you don’t take out those MORONIC limitations on amnesty, I’ll declare a National Emergency.
I will say, Dan Crenshaw (who has done the Lord’s work on this issue) voted No in the house, and the senator who beat McCaskill voted no.
Here are my questions for those of you more knowledgeable about Congress minutiae than me:
1) If Trump does sign this shite, are the above horrendous provisions the law forever, or just for the next six months? To me. They make the wall useless.
2) The law was passed by veto proof majorities in House and senate. Does the number of votes prevent Trump from vetoing this this POS Law- or can he veto and hope that he can sway 14 senators (i think that’s how many he needs) to change their votes when it goes back.
The problems are that it: 1) restricts places where he can build the wall (I don’t see how he can Emergency declare away a part of the law); 2) gives amnesty and immunity from prosecution to anybody who shows up with a minor (THE WORST PART); 3) defers the power of the federal government to enforce borders to random local mayors.
This is amnesty and sanctuary cities all along the border. It is frickED UP.
Even if Trump declares a national emergency and builds the wall - the wall will have gigantic holes in it in various federal parks, and anywhere a local mayor wants to say no. Plus. We’re just encouraging human trafficking. We’re saying. Find a random toddler. Drag it across the dessert. You have a get out of jail free card, and welfare for life.
The law makes the wall useless. If it’s concrete or slats or whatever. We can’t throw these POS OUT if they get in.
It makes no. Logical. Sense. I think the National Emergency Declaration is a terrible idea, but If I were advising Trump, I would advise him to Veto, and send it back to the House and Senate and tell them if you don’t take out those MORONIC limitations on amnesty, I’ll declare a National Emergency.
I will say, Dan Crenshaw (who has done the Lord’s work on this issue) voted No in the house, and the senator who beat McCaskill voted no.
Here are my questions for those of you more knowledgeable about Congress minutiae than me:
1) If Trump does sign this shite, are the above horrendous provisions the law forever, or just for the next six months? To me. They make the wall useless.
2) The law was passed by veto proof majorities in House and senate. Does the number of votes prevent Trump from vetoing this this POS Law- or can he veto and hope that he can sway 14 senators (i think that’s how many he needs) to change their votes when it goes back.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 7:36 am
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Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:24 am to Wednesday
Boy you got that right.
At least it exposed them for being the open border assholes they are.
Anybody who looks at that and says anything else is incapable of rational thought.
At least it exposed them for being the open border assholes they are.
Anybody who looks at that and says anything else is incapable of rational thought.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:25 am to Wednesday
quote:
got on the Trump Train at the escalator. I’m not getting off. I’m not giving up my sparkle coat.
Blind loyalty to anything is stupid and dangerous.
Use your brain and criticize when it is necessary... Like this bill if he signs it.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:28 am to Displaced
quote:
Blind loyalty to anything is stupid and dangerous.
Use your brain and criticize when it is necessary... Like this bill if he signs it.
WTF?
What part of "This Bill is Terrible" slipped by you?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:33 am to Wednesday
Sometimes being a leader means you have to tame a bite from an excrement sandwich.
However, if I was trump, I wouldn’t sign it. Not because of the paltry sum for the wall but all the stupid Shiite that the Dems included like restricting numbers of detentions, not deporting pregnancy women etc.
However, if I was trump, I wouldn’t sign it. Not because of the paltry sum for the wall but all the stupid Shiite that the Dems included like restricting numbers of detentions, not deporting pregnancy women etc.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:37 am to Ten Bears
I wouldn’t either.
I am Bumping this because I hit submit before I finished my rant.
I am Bumping this because I hit submit before I finished my rant.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:37 am to Wednesday
He is going to have to engage in the Obama precedent and use the pen and phone.
Funny to watch lefties sky scream about that when they were crickets with the Kenyan.
Funny to watch lefties sky scream about that when they were crickets with the Kenyan.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:44 am to Wednesday
quote:Play the Dems game: It's not a wall, it's a creamy marshmellow nougat!
The problems are that it: 1) restricts places where he can build the wall (I don’t see how he can Emergency declare away a part of the law);
quote:They can still be deported, it's not prosecution, it's their right to go home!
2) gives amnesty and immunity from prosecution to anybody who shows up with a minor (THE WORST PART);
quote:Not constitutional, Fed Govt. sets borders by treaties. Solution:renegotiate treaty putting disagreeable towns on other side of the wall!
3) defers the power of the federal government to enforce borders to random local mayors.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:47 am to Wednesday
Can someone explain the reasoning for Trump to sign this shite bill with shite legislation at all if hes declasring an emergency anyway . Make zero sense to me .
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:49 am to DreauxB2015
The bill was passed by 2/3 majority in House and Senate. So unless they change their votes it’s veto proof.
This post was edited on 2/15/19 at 7:50 am
Posted on 2/15/19 at 7:59 am to Wednesday
quote:
bill was passed by 2/3 majority in House and Senate
A veto isn't worth it but he shouln't sign either.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:05 am to DreauxB2015
quote:Because Trump screwed up whennhe was cowed into the three week deal. The Dems knew he didn't have the balls to shut down again, so they so they dragged their nuts across his and the republicans' faces.
Can someone explain the reasoning for Trump to sign this shite bill with shite legislation at all if hes declasring an emergency anyway . Make zero sense to me
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:06 am to TrueTiger
If he doesn’t sign it, and the law goes into effect, would it be the law forever or just until
Congress had to pass its next budget?
Because I can seethe about this for six months. Just not forever.
Congress had to pass its next budget?
Because I can seethe about this for six months. Just not forever.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:07 am to Jake88
Sure seems that way . 
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:08 am to Wednesday
Yes it becomes law in 10 days.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:11 am to TrueTiger
Spending bills are permanent?
My God. This is an abortion.
My God. This is an abortion.
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:11 am to Wednesday
this funding bill is just for this fiscal year
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:14 am to Choctaw
Right. The funding parts aren’t what piss me off.
It’s the part about federally sanctioned sanctuary cities and amnesty to anyone who brings a kid into this country illegally that freak me out. Are we stuck with that shite forever??
It’s the part about federally sanctioned sanctuary cities and amnesty to anyone who brings a kid into this country illegally that freak me out. Are we stuck with that shite forever??
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:24 am to Wednesday
1) It isn't permanent as far as the material restrictions are concerned. The local vetoes and restriction on prosecuting guardians are as permanent as any law is.
2) If Trump we're to go back on his word to Mitch McConnell and not sign the bill I think the Senate would be ticked off enough to override the veto. The only play here is to sign and try the EO route.
PS: Your coat has sparkles? Was that a special order?
2) If Trump we're to go back on his word to Mitch McConnell and not sign the bill I think the Senate would be ticked off enough to override the veto. The only play here is to sign and try the EO route.
PS: Your coat has sparkles? Was that a special order?
Posted on 2/15/19 at 8:27 am to mmcgrath
Number 1 makes me so pissed. I cannot see straight.
Yes. My coat has sparkles. It’s the ladies model. Special edition.
Yes. My coat has sparkles. It’s the ladies model. Special edition.
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