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re: The 9/11 Files: Tucker Carlson
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:51 pm to tide06
Posted on 10/14/25 at 9:51 pm to tide06
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How did the tail of the commercial airliner get to the pentagon if it was purely a missile attack?
Someone can put it there obviously.
Why won't they release any other videos of it? One of the most secure buildings in the world has 0 cameras? The gas station nearby has more security cameras than the pentagon?
The entire thing could be cleared up with just a simple release of a video.
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Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:24 pm to Tall Tiger
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The University of Alaska Fairbanks conducted a study (released in 2020) suggesting that fires could not have caused the observed collapse, proposing instead that all columns failed simultaneously, consistent with controlled demolition. This study is not peer-reviewed and contradicts NIST’s findings, which are widely accepted by the engineering community.
All of the beams reached failure at the same time from the fire. Don’t question this at all or you’ll be considered a conspiracy theorist like those lunatics that suggested we all take “horse paste”.
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:24 pm to 3down10
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Someone can put it there obviously.
You realize how big something like that is right?
You’d need a full size tractor trailer to get it onsite and heavy equipment to move it.
Do you have any evidence to support that a commercial airliner tail was moved to the pentagon and positioned to coincide with your missile strike scenario?
Posted on 10/14/25 at 10:36 pm to tide06
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You realize how big something like that is right?
You’d need a full size tractor trailer to get it onsite and heavy equipment to move it.
Do you have any evidence to support that a commercial airliner tail was moved to the pentagon and positioned to coincide with your missile strike scenario?
I've not seen any pictures of what you are talking about, nor can I find them.
What I'm able to find are things like this:
And I guess the rivets just blew off this piece, or something.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:33 am to 3down10
Yeah, you don’t need a tractor trailer for all that.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:34 am to rmnldr
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Prove it
The owner of the building verbally said on camera to "pull it". So it was pulled.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 8:47 am to Bass Tiger
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I think one of the biggest question regarding 9/11 is the lack of video evidence of an airliner hitting the Pentagon building.
Besides the fact that the hole in the side of the Pentagon doesn't resemble anything like a plane it it, not saying it didn't, but the pilot supposedly had trouble flying a small prop plane. The way to know whether these things are legit or not is to watch the follow up actions.
- Who shorted airline stocks the days before the attacks?
- We used these attacks to go into Iraq on completely false information
- They found passports in PA and NYC rubble of the hijackers, yet the fires were strong enough to burn steel. I mean this is possibly the most egregious thing I've ever heard. Its so stupid, its almost unfathomable they even say this.
- 20 plus years of military presence in Afghanistan all the while the opioid business increases in the preceding years 1000% We crack down on opioids and big pharma and miraculously its time to leave Afghanistan without a real plan.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:02 am to JCdawg
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Besides the fact that the hole in the side of the Pentagon doesn't resemble anything like a plane it it
The Pentagon is made of reinforced concrete and designed to withstand attacks. A commercial airliner, while large and heavy, is much softer in density than reinforced concrete. The impact collapsed a section. It was also widely seen by eyewitnesses and was tracked on radar at multiple different stations.
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Who shorted airline stocks the days before the attacks?
The 9/11 commission and SEC investigated this and it was regular institutional traders. Did they have foreknowledge? Perhaps. But we'll never know. This was a large planned out conspiracy event that was possibly being coordinated with nation state assets. It's possible people were tipped off.
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We used these attacks to go into Iraq on completely false information
As political exploitation. But the calls to re-invade Iraq had been ongoing well before 9/11 and we had people lobbying for it like Bibi.
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They found passports in PA and NYC rubble of the hijackers, yet the fires were strong enough to burn steel. I mean this is possibly the most egregious thing I've ever heard. Its so stupid, its almost unfathomable they even say this.
What was in the planes did not stay in the towers inside pools of burning fuel. A lot of debris from the planes were ejected out the back side of the towers. That's why people immediately found large plane parts scattered inside the debris field.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:03 am to GumboPot
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The owner of the building verbally said on camera to "pull it". So it was pulled.
Which meant to discontinue firefighting efforts. The building was a constructive total loss and it was decided to pull out all the firefighters and their assets.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:06 am to olemc999
Just listened to the most recent episode. Incredible work.
Also just listened to the interview of John Kiriakou by Joe Rogan. Also incredible. So many answers. All roads lead back to John Brennan and his time in Riyadh as the station chief and his subsequent career in the Obama White House.
Also just listened to the interview of John Kiriakou by Joe Rogan. Also incredible. So many answers. All roads lead back to John Brennan and his time in Riyadh as the station chief and his subsequent career in the Obama White House.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:06 am to jnethe1
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All of the beams reached failure at the same time from the fire. Don’t question this at all or you’ll be considered a conspiracy theorist like those lunatics that suggested we all take “horse paste”.
Except it literally didn't and your gif proves that.
Look at the top of the building and you can see that the collapse is not simultaneous. It is progressive. That's why the building appears to twist and cave in.
The fires burned for 7 hours largely unmitigated in a building already partially compromised from falling debris. The east side fell first, at one crucial column, then the rest followed in a cascading collapse.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:09 am to 3down10
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Someone can put it there obviously.
Hundreds of eyewitnesses.
Recovered thousands of pieces of debris. The black boxes, human DNA. The landing gear and engines were photographed by first responders.
Was every single person there in on it? The people that lost their lives... their families too?
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:09 am to rmnldr
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Which meant to discontinue firefighting efforts.
Oh, that's what he meant.
On a slightly side note can we please have NIST release their LS-DYNA native files so their FEM model of their theory on the building 7 collapse can be properly peer reviewed? Why is that not possible? In the normal engineering world we peer review each other but NIST will not allow it. This is their story and they are sticking to with. No checking of dimensional data. No cross checking dimensions with as-built drawings. No cross checking with beam MTRs. Just trust us bro.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:15 am to GumboPot
The files weren't wholly released but they included their methodology, assumptions, material properties, and results in the official report. They cited that WT7's collapse showed a flaw in national security because other buildings were susceptible to the exact same type of collapse sequence and didn't want to give the blueprint on "how to collapse buildings"
Does it suck that they didn't release it fully? Sure. Do they actually have a good reason, yes. There's tons of models that have been made independently to challenge or support theirs. Not to mention that the American Society of Civil Engineers DID review theirs. The report is 700+ pages of structural detail, connection drawings, and load path analysis. You can look at it yourself. They had access to everything from Port Authority.
Does it suck that they didn't release it fully? Sure. Do they actually have a good reason, yes. There's tons of models that have been made independently to challenge or support theirs. Not to mention that the American Society of Civil Engineers DID review theirs. The report is 700+ pages of structural detail, connection drawings, and load path analysis. You can look at it yourself. They had access to everything from Port Authority.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:17 am to 3down10
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When that building collapsed in Florida a few years ago, same thing.
The beautiful thing about the Miami Florida building collapse is a demonstration that only, ONLY, the failure of the grade-beams above the parking garage basement failed (due to corrosion in this case) and the entire building collapsed that was directly above these grade level beams. (Other sections of the building did not collapse because they were supported by grade beams that did not fail).
This demonstrates that only a few grade beans in building 7 had to be rigged to fail to collapse the building in a similar fashion.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:18 am to Tall Tiger
What? Building 7 wasn't struck by anything but demolition charges
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:19 am to rmnldr
Hey Grok why did not NIST release the native LS-DYNA files for peer review?
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NIST's investigation into the collapse of World Trade Center Building 7 (WTC 7) on September 11, 2001, relied heavily on advanced finite element simulations, including LS-DYNA for modeling the progressive structural failure after initial thermal expansion and girder walk-off at Column 79. While NIST released its full final report (NCSTAR 1-9 series) in 2008, along with visualizations, animations, and detailed descriptions of the modeling approach, it did not publicly share the native input files (e.g., the .k keyword files) or full parametric model data for independent replication.
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:20 am to 3down10
So set aside the eyewitness testimony and photo evidence of actual plane wreckage at the scene of the attack on the Pentagon.
A plane, in this case, a Boeing 757 with the call sign AA Flight 77 took off from Dulles that morning with 64 people on board bound for LAX.
If the attack on the Pentagon didn't involve an airplane, where did the plane and 64 people go?
For your story to be plausible it would require an explanation as to:
-what happened to the plane
-what happened to the people
-where the missile came from
-who shot it and why (given that cruise missile range is what it is the only possible suspects would be Russia or the US government itself)
-how they brought in airline wreckage and convinced no one at the Pentagon (where ~25k people work) and on I95 which goes right by it to notice or talk about the plane parts arriving and being placed on the scene in broad daylight
-why eyewitnesses said they saw the giant plane in question flying to the scene of the attack
-given that the NYC attacks obviously (or do you dispute that as well?) involved planes, why the attackers chose in this case to use a missile rather than a plane that they would then subsequently also need to shoot down or somehow dispose of
A plane, in this case, a Boeing 757 with the call sign AA Flight 77 took off from Dulles that morning with 64 people on board bound for LAX.
If the attack on the Pentagon didn't involve an airplane, where did the plane and 64 people go?
For your story to be plausible it would require an explanation as to:
-what happened to the plane
-what happened to the people
-where the missile came from
-who shot it and why (given that cruise missile range is what it is the only possible suspects would be Russia or the US government itself)
-how they brought in airline wreckage and convinced no one at the Pentagon (where ~25k people work) and on I95 which goes right by it to notice or talk about the plane parts arriving and being placed on the scene in broad daylight
-why eyewitnesses said they saw the giant plane in question flying to the scene of the attack
-given that the NYC attacks obviously (or do you dispute that as well?) involved planes, why the attackers chose in this case to use a missile rather than a plane that they would then subsequently also need to shoot down or somehow dispose of
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:24 am to olemc999
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I never knew that they moved the debris overseas. What’s the deal behind that?
To get rid of the evidence
Posted on 10/15/25 at 9:25 am to Tall Tiger
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WTC 7 was structurally compromised when the North Tower fell into it, gashing it down the middle (likely caused by the antenna) and was otherwise engulfed in flames all day.
JFC...
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