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re: The 1.9 million "self deportation" figure is nonsense

Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:44 am to
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:44 am to
Good point ill post a source in OP.

But Noem is the one that really needs a source bc shes the one who is hyping nonsense.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 8:46 am
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:45 am to
Sure thing SirNeera!
Posted by Jugbow
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:46 am to
quote:

A Google search of the first 2 paragraphs showed no results, does a link even exist? If it was a credible source, Google would have found it


Pretty sure he used AI and pasted
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:47 am to
I figured you got this bullshite talking point from Heinrich Fuentes. Give us a break with that idiot.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:48 am to
I just linked it in OP and now here.

That was my fault, ive been getting on posters for having no sources then I do the same thing myself. Oof.

LINK
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 8:48 am
Posted by Jugbow
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:50 am to
Holy shite you’re a retard using that as your source.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:50 am to
I agree its a far left beurocratic source. But in some instances, cold hard facts dont have bias. Its plain as day what Noem and Trump are doing. Theyre using bullshite to create and hype fake numbers to the base.


quote:

The claims of an exodus of almost 2 million unauthorized immigrants seem to be based on a flawed analysis of the Census Bureau’s monthly Current Population Survey. The administration’s willingness to misreport statistical data erodes prevailing norms holding federal agencies accountable for transparency in explaining methodological limitations of data collection and analysis. This trend will make it still easier in the future for an administration that relies on reckless rhetoric as a favored tool for governance to substitute fiction for facts.
This post was edited on 1/19/26 at 8:54 am
Posted by rtr72
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:52 am to
Why you people hate this county is beyond me. You must have never traveled outside the USA.
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:52 am to
Here's what this group is all about directly from their webpage. Do you think they might have a bit of an agenda here? It's basically wishcasting from a pro illegal immigration group.



quote:

About
The Center for Migration Studies of New York (CMS) is a think tank and an educational institute devoted to the study of international migration, to the promotion of understanding between immigrants and receiving communities, and to public policies that safeguard the dignity and rights of migrants, refugees, and newcomers.

Initiatives
CMS’s two initiatives – Democratizing Data and Catholic Immigrant Integration – focus sustained attention on priority populations and communities.
Posted by SirWinston
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:54 am to
I agree they are far left. But they are right that Noem is taking flawed analysis and hyping it to the Trump base (of which I am a member).

Im tired of being lied to.
Posted by Csmims
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:55 am to
Except for the millions Potato Joe and his incompetent administration invited into the country
Posted by Smokeyone
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:55 am to
Only a small percentage too the money to go home. Many more on expired Visas just left without the U.S. money to avoid ICE. A fair number left when Trump left crossing the northern and southern borders.

The idea that the only ones that left are the ones that took the money is just silly.
Posted by SallysHuman
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:56 am to
quote:

Im tired of being lied to.


So you seek out shady leftwing talking points?
Posted by Seeker
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:56 am to
quote:


The number is based on nothing concrete.


Neither is the number of illegal immigrants that entered the country.

Both parties benefit from inflating the illegal immigration numbers.

Democrats benefit from creating fake voters.
Republicans benefit from having a crisis to help win elections.
Posted by First Sergeant1
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Member since Dec 2018
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:58 am to
What more do you want? We see the proof of them diligently working to deport…some people will never be happy regardless! It takes time.
Posted by RohanGonzales
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 8:59 am to
Why didn't you tell us about the author?

About the Author

Edward Kissam is a trustee of the Werner-Kohnstamm Family Fund, which focuses on sound immigration policy reform and civic integration of immigrants. He has conducted and published research on migrant and seasonal farmworkers and immigrant integration in the U.S., as well as educational initatives in Afghanistan. Edward has worked on issues of differential census undercount for three decades and published papers on farmworker undercount and coverage measurement in the 1990, 2000, and 2010 decennial censuses.


not sure who the biggest clown is, him or you
Posted by Jbird
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:02 am to
quote:


Im tired of being lied to.


So you seek out shady leftwing talking points?
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:06 am to
quote:

Except for the millions Potato Joe and his incompetent administration invited into the country

Trillions *

Actually… gazillions**

ICE needs more funding.
Posted by Jbird
Shoot the tires out!
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:07 am to
quote:


Trillions *

Actually… gazillions**

ICE needs more funding.


The queen of hyperbole.
Posted by Kcrad
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Posted on 1/19/26 at 9:08 am to
quote:

Im tired of being lied to.



quote:

So you seek out shady leftwing talking points?
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