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re: Ted Cruz is tweeting about Disney!
Posted on 2/11/21 at 5:50 pm to FreeSpeechWarrior280
Posted on 2/11/21 at 5:50 pm to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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I care about people facing actual, meaningful consequences for their speech. A multi-millionaire losing a gig? Yawn!
Even if this were true (it almost certainly isn't) your morality is based on finances and not anything deeper?
So you're not going to argue her speech was not restricted...just that she's richer than you so you don't care?
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Posted on 2/11/21 at 6:21 pm to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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easily, easily the most boring character on that show. i don 't even care about her being "cancelled"-- the show is much better without her, and there's sooo much more potential to be had in exploring other New Republic fighters than her
[quote]FreeSpeechWarrior280[/quote
Irony much?
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:27 pm to TerryDawg03
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Rand.
I know his fans want to believe that, but he’s one of the biggest opportunists out there. He’s all bark no bite.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 7:32 pm to SipGirl
The founder of Disney was a notorious pedophile
Posted on 2/11/21 at 8:01 pm to GeauxTigerTM
I base my morality -- at least, the parts dealing with questions of "what should we NOT do? what is WRONG to do?" -- with harm. That is to say, if something causes no harm, I think it does no wrong, in general. So it's not "based on finances" -- anyone, no matter how rich you are, suffers if you physically injure them. Wealth isn't going to turn off your pain sensors!
But when it comes to an issue of financial harm? Well, I'd think absolutely your prior financial state is relevant. Robbing a working-class person of, say, a THOUSAND dollars does a LOT more harm than robbing a millionaire of a thousand dollars.
Likewise, I think that being fired from a lucrative position does a lot less harm to someone who is very well off as opposed to someone who frankly isn't. And I don't think Carano falls into that LATTER category! So, since I don't see it as being a harm -- at least, enough to register as one; I would honestly not consider myself harmed if someone stole exactly three cents from me, even if they did it without my consent, against my wishes, etc.) -- I don't see it as being a wrong. So I don't care! lmao
But when it comes to an issue of financial harm? Well, I'd think absolutely your prior financial state is relevant. Robbing a working-class person of, say, a THOUSAND dollars does a LOT more harm than robbing a millionaire of a thousand dollars.
Likewise, I think that being fired from a lucrative position does a lot less harm to someone who is very well off as opposed to someone who frankly isn't. And I don't think Carano falls into that LATTER category! So, since I don't see it as being a harm -- at least, enough to register as one; I would honestly not consider myself harmed if someone stole exactly three cents from me, even if they did it without my consent, against my wishes, etc.) -- I don't see it as being a wrong. So I don't care! lmao
Posted on 2/11/21 at 9:43 pm to CoachChappy
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I know his fans want to believe that, but he’s one of the biggest opportunists out there. He’s all bark no bite.
He was the only Senator to block unanimous consent on the hate crimes bill that Booker and Harris tried to ram through.
He's also the one who called for the resolution on whether or not the Senate "Impeachment Trial" is constitutional.
He returns his unused funds to the Treasury at the end of each year.
Posted on 2/11/21 at 9:49 pm to Seldom Seen
#CancelDisneyPlus
#NotMyStarWars
With out respect, we reject!
#NotMyStarWars
With out respect, we reject!
Posted on 2/11/21 at 10:46 pm to Seldom Seen
In pointing out the cancel culture of nazi Germany, she became cancelled.
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Posted on 2/12/21 at 2:37 am to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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FreeSpeechWarrior280
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i don 't even care about her being "cancelled"
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FreeSpeechWarrior280
Posted on 2/12/21 at 2:43 am to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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at least, enough to register as one; I would honestly not consider myself harmed if someone stole exactly three cents from me, even if they did it without my consent, against my wishes, etc.)
Holy shite you are one bent motherfricker...
So because 3 cents doesn't hurt you, it's ok for someone to get fired for an accurate observation that legitimately doesn't harm anyone.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:05 am to IceTiger
Do you really think I gave the three-cent scenario as a reason or as an example? Regardless, come on, it's not just some universal thing of "someone got fired" -- I mean, what if I said "hey, Person A killed Person B. Is that okay?"
If Person B were trying to kill them and it was self-defense....yes. If Person B were an innocent victim...no.
Now, if the person getting fired is going to be completely fine -- and, specifically, if the person is Gina Carano and they're being fired from a TV SHOW? Yes, that's ok.
If Person B were trying to kill them and it was self-defense....yes. If Person B were an innocent victim...no.
Now, if the person getting fired is going to be completely fine -- and, specifically, if the person is Gina Carano and they're being fired from a TV SHOW? Yes, that's ok.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:10 am to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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easily, easily the most boring character on that show. i don 't even care about her being "cancelled" -- the show is much better without her, and there's sooo much more potential to be had in exploring other New Republic fighters than her
Are you getting paid to troll or are you just this much of an insufferable loser that it gives you warm feels to be like ...well, you.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:10 am to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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Now, if the person getting fired is going to be completely fine -- and, specifically, if the person is Gina Carano and they're being fired from a TV SHOW? Yes, that's ok.
what a warped sense of damages. I guess wealthy people do not share the same rights as those with less means. I bet you were one of those “they have insurance” idiots too. Amirite?
This post was edited on 2/12/21 at 10:11 am
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:10 am to FreeSpeechWarrior280
you're not very bright.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:19 am to CaTiger85
I believe they have just as many rights -- at least, human rights -- as the rest of us. As I see it, rights are defenses against harms -- and a natural consequence is that when the threshold for harm is higher, the threshold for rights-violation is likewise higher.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:22 am to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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? I mean it sort of it. he's portraying her as some badass character that we should miss, and that that has something to do with why she's being written out, when none of that's true -- like I said, she's incredibly boring to be honest (so, not badass), but if she WERE an interesting character, why would that be an incentive for Disney to "cancel" her? cruz's tweet makes no sense!
and as for the actress herself, what IS the point? what do I care that she's getting fired? what difference does it make to me....I don't have any sympathy....lmao
This is what's really funny:
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FreeSpeechWarrior280
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:22 am to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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if something causes no harm, I think it does no wrong, in general.
Ugh...
Even if you felt that the individual harm done to Carrano was minimal given her financial situation (again, you have no evidence of this at all other than your own bias) the harm I'm concerned about in this case is to society at large.
By standing back and allowing people to be silenced who are actually in positions to fight back, it makes it that much less likely for the people you DO seem to care about to fight back. It's hard to imagine you don't recognize that.
Take Drew Brees for instance. Without rearguing any of his points, this was a guy that was as poised as anyone in America to stand for his principles, assuming he had any. He actually IS wealthy, is a first ballot HOFer (though if he had stood up that may have taken longer) and was at the tail end of his career. Very few people were as "privileged" as he and could have stood up the way he did. But instead, he buckled and groveled for weeks on end. His capitulation to the mob...despite the fact that had he been cancelled you'd have had little issue with it because the loss to him personally would have been negligible as far as you're concerned, was devastating to everyone else who saw his inability to stand up as a sign they they'd better not, or at least that they'd have no hope in standing up. It was chilling, and you likely thought it was fine, because Brees' potential loss had he stood up was not enough to move the needle for you.
In the end, you either have a principled stance, or you don't. You clearly don't, which is what makes your username funny.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:23 am to AURaptor
If by "troll" you mean "enthusiastically stating what I believe," I do this for free.
I don't say stupid shite just to rile people up, and I don't pretend to be or think anything I'm not. I do think your conservative echo chamber could use some livening up, of course, and I'd like to THINK I'm up to the task ;)
I don't say stupid shite just to rile people up, and I don't pretend to be or think anything I'm not. I do think your conservative echo chamber could use some livening up, of course, and I'd like to THINK I'm up to the task ;)
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:26 am to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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easily, easily the most boring character on that show. i don 't even care about her being "cancelled" -- the show is much better without her, and there's sooo much more potential to be had in exploring other New Republic fighters than her
The irony of this post with that user name. Just amazing.
Posted on 2/12/21 at 10:29 am to FreeSpeechWarrior280
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your conservative echo chamber
Never stops being funny.
You live in a country in which nearly all of news media, entertainment, educational structures and social media lean left...and you've got the nerve to point at our echo chanmber.
For frick's sake...the entire country you live in is a left wing echo chamber, and you're concerned about the small pockets where people on the right can get together outside of the left's Big Brother like gaze?
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I'd like to THINK I'm up to the task ;)
Unles you're holding back, you're definitely not.
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