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Teacher fired after refusing to give credit to students who didn't turn in homework
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:19 am
Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:19 am
The lunacy continues...
We really have to come up with a plan to take our educational system back from the idiots
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We really have to come up with a plan to take our educational system back from the idiots
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PORT ST. LUCIE, Fla (WPTV) -- Should students get half credit for an assignment they didn’t even turn in? A former St. Lucie County teacher doesn’t think so.
That’s why she wrote a goodbye message to her eighth graders on a white board saying: "Bye Kids, Mrs. Tirado loves you and wishes you the best in life! I have been fired for refusing to give you a 50% for not handing anything in. ?? Mrs. Tirado"
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Posted on 9/26/18 at 10:20 am to dcbl
Sounds legit
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:13 pm to bmy
quote:looks like you are correct on this one
Sounds legit
The teacher was in the wrong and deserved to be fired, as much as it looks ridiculous
My wife has taught 8th grade English for over 20 years
The district had a policy that does not allow for any grade below 50%; sounds absurd - right?
It's not though, my wife explained it to me.
A zero grade is impossible to recover from. Even if the kid makes all As, Bs & Cs the rest of the way, that zero on one unit could cause them to fail, which would not necessarily be a fair reflection of the student's real progress for the year, or semester. If a kid decides to turn it around and get serious, recovering from a 50% unit score is feasible
My wife's school, which is one of the top schools in Alabama, has the same "no zero grade" policy
The kids are required to do lunch study or Saturday school, and the teacher can still give a failing grade, but not lower than 50%
This fired teacher decided to ignore district and/or school policy and was fired for cause.
So there you have it...
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:16 pm to dcbl
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which would not necessarily be a fair reflection of the student's real progress
Lost me right there. It's not about fair, it's about doing what you are supposed to do and giving maximum effort not looking for an excuse to not turn something in.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:19 pm to CDawson
quote:no, it's about educating kids
Lost me right there. It's not about fair, it's about doing what you are supposed to do and giving maximum effort not looking for an excuse to not turn something in.
I can see the argument both ways, but would rather err on the side of giving students the chance to turn it around
As far as the firing? This woman decided to disregard a direct order from her boss
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:24 pm to dcbl
quote:
A zero grade is impossible to recover from. Even if the kid makes all As, Bs & Cs the rest of the way, that zero on one unit could cause them to fail, which would not necessarily be a fair reflection of the student's real progress for the year, or semester. If a kid decides to turn it around and get serious, recovering from a 50% unit score is feasible
Reinforcing a negative. Nothing is free in life, and middle school is the perfect place to reinforce this.
Slackers laughing because the teacher got fired. Give them a participation trophy. Maybe they can pawn it one day to buy dope.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:27 pm to dcbl
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A zero grade is impossible to recover from.
Thats BS, a zero grade for home work is not impossible to recover from in todays grading structure. Kids are pushed to pass no matter how little they learn or poorly they perform. The reality is the schools need to give the miscreants credit for something every chance they get so they will pass no matter how poorly they perform.
Half credit for not doing homework is a fraud.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:29 pm to bmy
quote:
Sounds legit
It was on the radio YESTERDAY, you hack
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:30 pm to dcbl
quote:
zero grade is impossible to recover from.
Incorrect.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:33 pm to dcbl
Our students can turn in an assignment late for a failing grade of 50%. They will never pass the class that way but it does make then do the work which is the goal.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:40 pm to dcbl
50% credit on completed homework that shows legit effort, even if completely incorrect, is fine.
50% credit on MISSED HOMEWORK is bull.
50% credit on MISSED HOMEWORK is bull.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:56 pm to dcbl
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The kids are required to do lunch study or Saturday school, and the teacher can still give a failing grade, but not lower than 50%
This fired teacher decided to ignore district and/or school policy and was fired for cause.
So, would it make sense for the district to give this teacher 50% of her paycheck, even though she no longer shows up for work? 0% paycheck is pretty hard to recover from...
Posted on 9/26/18 at 5:57 pm to dcbl
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The district had a policy that does not allow for any grade below 50%; sounds absurd - right?
It's not though, my wife explained it to me.
A zero grade is impossible to recover from. Even if the kid makes all As, Bs & Cs the rest of the way, that zero on one unit could cause them to fail, which would not necessarily be a fair reflection of the student's real progress for the year, or semester. If a kid decides to turn it around and get serious, recovering from a 50% unit score is feasible
This sounds like bullshite.
I missed a few assignments in High School and passed.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 6:04 pm to dcbl
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no, it's about educating kids
Agree. Educating kids starts with teaching them personal responsibility and being accountable for actions or in this case, inactions if they fail or refuse to complete the work.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 7:15 pm to TbirdSpur2010
I have mixed feelings here
On the one hand, I like the policy because it allows a kid to recover from bad choices, 8th grade is 12 and 13 year olds
If a 12 year old has an epiphany and decides to get serious, this gives him or her a chance
On the other hand, it does get too close to "participation trophy" type garbage
I also want to reemphacize something I think most of y'all missed, the students ARE required to make up the work; either through turning the project in late, lunch study period or Saturday school
IF they refuse, they can still get a zero grade
And I should not have said "impossible"; I should have save "extremely difficult"
On the one hand, I like the policy because it allows a kid to recover from bad choices, 8th grade is 12 and 13 year olds
If a 12 year old has an epiphany and decides to get serious, this gives him or her a chance
On the other hand, it does get too close to "participation trophy" type garbage
I also want to reemphacize something I think most of y'all missed, the students ARE required to make up the work; either through turning the project in late, lunch study period or Saturday school
IF they refuse, they can still get a zero grade
And I should not have said "impossible"; I should have save "extremely difficult"
Posted on 9/26/18 at 7:38 pm to TbirdSpur2010
And it was discovered that she wasn’t fired for this offense.
Look in the mirror.
Look in the mirror.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 7:40 pm to dcbl
were the kids made to go outside and protest for the WOMEN they BELIEVE THEM?
Posted on 9/26/18 at 7:40 pm to dcbl
I hated the reasoning by the board that she "created a toxic environment". I mean really?
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 7:42 pm
Posted on 9/26/18 at 7:41 pm to dcbl
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I should not have said "impossible"; I should have save "extremely difficult"
That I'll agree with
I think it's important not to reward young people with something for doing nothing. I will say that I think there should be a solid conversation as to why something wasn't turned in and mercy should be considered in extenuating circumstances, but if kids are flippantly blowing off assignments with no good explanation other than laziness, then you can't give them 50s, IMO.
Posted on 9/26/18 at 7:44 pm to TbirdSpur2010
quote:I agree and I did not likely give the explanation that my wife convinced me with justice
if kids are flippantly blowing off assignments with no good explanation other than laziness, then you can't give them 50s, IMO.
But the policy is not as totally ridiculous as it looks on the surface
This post was edited on 9/26/18 at 7:45 pm
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