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re: TARIFFS - they're doing precisely what they were intended to do!!

Posted on 8/29/26 at 9:05 am to
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27974 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 9:05 am to
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....but now the Mid terms are in question...


Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64394 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 9:25 am to
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Driving up domestic manufacturing and production while creating jobs and wage growth.

It Will Be Glorious!!
From May 2026…



Net BED Job Gains and Losses by Sector 5-Quarter Total
Net Total: +94,000
Natural Resources and Mining: -21,000
Construction: +21,000
Manufacturing: -340,000
Wholesale Trade: -66,000
Retail Trade: -222,000
Transportation: +119,000
Utilities: +15,000
Information: -106,000
Financial Activities: -20,000
Professional and Business Services: -247,000
Education and Health Services: +862,000
Leisure and Hospitality: -186,000
Other Services: -18,000



Construction spending (From 8/26)

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Key Nonresidential Construction Points Year-Over-Year
Nonresidential Total: -36.8 billion
Data Centers: +21.4 billion
Office Excluding Data Centers: -6.2 billion
Manufacturing: -48.0 billion
Commercial: -6.5 billion
Power: +6.5 billion
Communication: +0.9 billion
Transportation: -0.4 billion
Education -1.1 billion
Health Care -2.7 billion

This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 9:29 am
Posted by Taxing Authority
Houston
Member since Feb 2010
64394 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 9:36 am to
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I do not see it at all. Heck, just buy American made it you feel you are being gouged by the Chinese
Like dis?

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These sky-high border taxes have caused U.S. aluminum and steel prices to soar. The price premium for U.S. aluminum over the global benchmark has increased five-fold since Mr. Trump took office a second time. Americans are now paying roughly 75% more for aluminum than the rest of the world. Steel prices in the U.S. are also about 64% higher than in northern Europe. One reason these differential are larger than 50% is because the metal tariffs are stacked on top of other tariffs on China, which is the world’s largest producer of steel and aluminum.




Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
69405 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 10:16 am to
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If You think business is just going to absorb these tariffs without passing the cost along to the customer, you’re missing the whole point of business. It’s for profit. Absorbing tariffs, reduces profit.


Good. Let them raise prices so competitors who don't need to pay a tariff will pop up here. So far, prices have not seen a sharp increase do to tariffs.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27974 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 10:59 am to
That decline was real sharp from 2021 - 2024.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27974 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 11:00 am to
Hundreds of thousands of illegals are gone. Get back with me after 5 more quarters!!
Posted by wackatimesthree
Member since Oct 2019
15728 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 1:58 pm to
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If I am, I haven't noticed. Prices seem pretty stable compared to recent years.



Again, if not, what were the refunds for?

Y'all populists can't be angry on one hand about the government refunding money back to companies "when the costs were passed along to consumers," and at the same time deny higher prices.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
69405 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 2:07 pm to
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Again, if not, what were the refunds for?


Money paid to the government. That does not mean they increased prices. They do still have to compete.

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Y'all populists can't be angry on one hand about the government refunding money back to companies "when the costs were passed along to consumers," and at the same time deny higher prices.


At no point have I claimed costs were passed on to consumers. Leftists have been claiming that. The fact that companiss aren't refundingthe money to consumers, and haven't adjusted prices, proves that tariffs were never the reason for any pricing decisions. Only ones I can think of are video game consoles, but that obviously has next to nothing to do with tariffs.
This post was edited on 8/29/26 at 2:09 pm
Posted by Robcrzy
Mandeville
Member since Nov 2007
1650 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 2:57 pm to
What the frick are you laughing at? are you even paying attention? there is a strong chance we lose the house.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27974 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 2:59 pm to
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What the frick are you laughing at? are you even paying attention? there is a strong chance we lose the house.


Posted by Obtuse1
Westside Bodymore Yo
Member since Sep 2016
31586 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 3:12 pm to
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It's tough when one can not afford an outstanding accountant.


The problem stems from being in the exact opposite position.

While the adjustment of the brackets and particularly the reduction of 2.6% in the top bracket were helpful, everything else broke the other way for us.

The cap on the SALT deduction to $10k killed us. While the current short term (to 2030) increase to $40k in the BBB would have helped some but still left a lot on the table, we make too much to take advantage of it, so we are still capped at $10k. Given we itemize, the increase in the standard deduction is worthless to us.

Initially, the TCJA looked like it would help us because we are both pass-throughs. We are also STTBs, so because we make well over the limit we don't get a QBI.

I am always happy to see people's taxes get reduced. When ours goes up to make up the shortfall of several of them it takes all the joy out of it.





Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
27974 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 4:53 pm to
It is a frustrating position to be in. As a high-earning professional caught in the crosshairs of the SALT cap and the Specified Service Trade or Business (SSTB) exclusions I often find that major tax reform packages end up functioning as a net tax increase rather than a relief. While making well over the income thresholds, standard middle-class tax cuts bypass my household, while structural caps (like the $10,000 SALT limit or the phase-downs on the temporary higher caps) dig directly into my itemized deductions. Furthermore, being classified as an SSTB, I'm locked out of the Section 199A Qualified Business Income (QBI) deduction. Given that my hands were tied on the legislative definitions of an SSTB and my high income phasing me out of relief mechanisms, the structural moves my accountant caused me to make as a high-earning pass-through owners definitely lowered my exposure. But we pay them well.

First, was the Pass-Through Entity Tax (PTET) Election. Since I was trapped by the federal $10,000 SALT cap, the most potent workaround developed across my state is the PTET election. Instead of paying state income tax at the individual level (where it is subject to the federal SALT bottleneck), my pass-through entity pays the state tax directly at the entity level as a business expense. The result: This reduces the net business income reported on my federal return, effectively giving me a full federal deduction for my state income taxes without running afoul of the Schedule A SALT cap. Maybe your state does not offer a robust PTET or your CPAs haven't aggressively optimized this since I have learned it is often the single largest missed opportunity for pass-through owners in high-tax states.
Second, aggressive entity structuring and income shifting was used since I am an SSTB and clear the QBI phase-out thresholds, the standard W-2 vs. guaranteed payments vs. distributive share calculus changes, but structural optimization was still possible. After a reasonable compensation review and since my business is an S-Corp, ensuring my W-2 salary is optimized relative to distributions was critical—even though for SSTBs, high income generally pushes distributions past the QBI threshold anyway. With a family management & hiring plan in place, by employing family members legitimately within the business for real, market-rate duties I was able to shift income into lower tax brackets or fund tax-advantaged accounts (like family-member retirement plans), even though this has diminishing returns at very high income levels.
Third, since 401(k) contributions barely scratch the surface for me, using advanced plan design shielded significant capital. By establishing a Cash Balance Plan alongside my traditional 401(k) it allowed annual pre-tax contributions well to $200,000+ per year, because of my age. It created a massive deduction that directly lowered my adjusted gross income by bypassing the itemized deduction limitations entirely.
Fourth, since I experienced a high-income spike year, we were able to bunch charitable contributions while also utilizing a DAF to help clear the itemized hurdle. Better yet, by utilizing a CRT I was able to defer and spread out capital gains while securing a current-year charitable deduction. Since my spouse qualifies for Real Estate Professional Status, our passive real estate losses were used to offset active non-passive income, giving us the break through ordinary high-income walls.

Yep, a great accountant can not be overstated. Good Luck.
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
58654 posts
Posted on 8/29/26 at 6:19 pm to
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US population is 8 times larger than Canada we should have a deficit.
Nope. This is what happens when someone understands half the situation. Each trade between Canada and America requires a Canadian buyer and an American seller. You seem to think that having more buyers, America should have a trade deficit, but America also has more sellers.

All other things being equal, two disparate populations should have a trade equilibrium. Both India and China have significantly more folks that the US, but both have trade surpluses with the US.
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