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re: Tariff war stalls $1 billion Chinese paper plant in Arkansas

Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:39 pm to
Posted by geauxbrown
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
27313 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:39 pm to
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What is appropriate now is criticism of Trump for creating new additional farm welfare because of his trade war.


While I understand your point, I guess it really comes down to whether you have faith, confidence and patience that the strategy will work. I happen to believe it will based on my belief that China will succumb to the need to feed their people.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:40 pm to
They can feed their people without the USA. That they are starving is a myth.

Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8882 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:40 pm to
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The Chinese are not our friend, They are our biggest geopolitical, economic and will soon be military foe. Much of their economy is built around fraud and theft of american trade secrets and espionage inside the United States. Chinese theft and spying is costing us 100 billion a year.



35 years ago or thereabouts, I worked at a fine paper mill. We had some Japanese businessmen/investors take a tour of the paper mill. At the time they had this grandiose idea of building a floating paper mill and transporting this paper mill off the coast of South America and shipping the finished paper to...wherever. We had to take tarps and cover up various parts of the paper machines and associated equipment to prevent the Japanese from taking pictures of everything and stealing the technology. Beats me why they were even allowed to tour the mill. We had a WWII Pacific veteran who just trembled with rage when they came through. Told the bossman that if he brought them around to his work station, he would not guarantee their safety. Yeah, I know this is a little off topic but the OP just reminded me of all this.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:41 pm to
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Not when you have a strong economy and solid GDP growth.


No, it still is punishing your own people. You're just arguing we have enough resources to weather it.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:45 pm to
If it's on hold, it's because they're building shite too fast for the contractors to keep up. I've got a friend that's a commercial contractor that has been hiring left and right. I don't know how many new hire physicals, drug screens, DOTS, pulmonary clearances we've done here recently, but it's been a lot. And just this week he asked to pull a crew off a job he had going for me to send them to Arkadelphia. It's stimulation our economy.
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:49 pm to
Here is some information for LazyFatBastard:



Take note of some of the countries we have surpluses with. Hong Kong, Singapore and Saudi Arabia. All have per capita incomes near or in excess of the USA.

I know it is hard for LazyFarBastard to understand but rich countries and rich peoples have trade deficits. Hong Kong has a trade deficit with the US and probably every other country in the world yet has one of the highest per capita incomes in the world in spite of having one of the highest population densities in the world.
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 8:52 pm
Posted by Jyrdis
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Member since Aug 2015
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Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:50 pm to
I got exhausted reading through the article, perhaps this was answered: how is the paper plant actually impacted by tariffs? Will they be sending the product back to China?
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:50 pm to
And if anything is stalling it, it's not being able to get enough people to pass a piss test. Seriously, there's been some big arse projects going on around here since Trump's been in. I'm ready for them to slow down some so they can finish my shite!
Posted by OTIS2
NoLA
Member since Jul 2008
52557 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:50 pm to
I.B., I nailed you for a one trick pony fool, dumbass, shite for brains years ago. Thanks for proving me correct!
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:54 pm to
And that article is all bullshite. There's no real stall. They're using the tariffs as an excuse to leverage some free shite from the state and local gov'ts. shite's still getting built. Jobs and money still being created and staying here.
Posted by rebeloke
Member since Nov 2012
17279 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:56 pm to
Truthfully it should encourage building here to avoid the tariffs.
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91097 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:56 pm to
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And that article is all bullshite. There's no real stall. They're using the tariffs as an excuse to leverage some free shite from the state and local gov'ts. shite's still getting built. Jobs and money still being created and staying here.




so IB a DIPSHIT had yet another post in a long line DEBUNKED YET AGAIN?

WHo'D A THUNK IT?

Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:57 pm to
Do ya'll want to read about companies being hurt by the tariffs??

Ok Sure.

Trump's Tariffs Force Last US TV Factory to Close

quote:

A South Carolina plant that assembles televisions using Chinese parts plans to shut down and lay off nearly all its employees because of new tariffs imposed by the Trump Administration, the company announced this week.

Element Electronics — which describes itself as the only assembler of televisions in the U.S. — plans to lay off 126 of its 134 permanent full-time employees and close the Winnsboro, S.C. plant on Oct. 5. Notably, there are still at least two smaller companies that continue to assemble speciality televisions in the U.S.

“The layoff and closure is a result of the new tariffs that were recently and unexpectedly imposed on many goods imported from China, including the key television components used in our assembly operations in Winnsboro,” Carl Kennedy, Element’s vice president of human resources, said in a letter to the South Carolina Department of Employment and Workforce on Monday.
Posted by BFIV
Virginia
Member since Apr 2012
8882 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:58 pm to
I absolutely love it when posters such as you lay the factual "smack" down on these idiot libtards.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 8:58 pm to
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but rich countries and rich peoples have trade deficits.


Truth, but economics ain't popular around these here parts, partner...
Posted by I B Freeman
Member since Oct 2009
27843 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:00 pm to
LazyFatBastard just how did you come to think like you do?

Do you have a link you can post that explains your shallow positions? that demonstrate you have actually read something that supports your positions?
This post was edited on 8/8/18 at 9:06 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299705 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:00 pm to
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faith, confidence and patience that the strategy will work


I think he's just flinging stuff out there. Hell, he was waffling on the TPP for a bit
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
31608 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:01 pm to
From what I'm seeing and hearing? Yes. There may be some dealings going on, but work is still rolling. shite's been like a miracle. The disabled are suddenly able to work, people that couldn't afford Obamacare suddenly have good jobs with good insurance. If this shite is stalled I can't fricking wait til it picks up!!!!!!
Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91097 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:02 pm to
I am talking GOODS NOT SERVICES YOU frickING NINCOMPOOP!

Nice try to keep those GOALPOSTS MOVING!



bottom line is you stated everything i put in my post. NOTHING U CAN SAY WILL CHANGE IT NOW!

EPIC FAIL CLOWN!

Posted by Fat Bastard
alter hunter
Member since Mar 2009
91097 posts
Posted on 8/8/18 at 9:05 pm to
1) you are fine with us losing jobs in certain sectors and never trying to gain any back.

2) you are fine with other countries dumping on us hurting us even more price wise and business wise.

3) you hate tariffs even if used as a negotiating tool to get better trade deals.

4) you wanted all our tariffs and protections dropped but were fine with others gouging us.

5) you said tariffs were bad for us but it was ok for others since they help other countries protect products.

6) you are fine with all our trade deficits

in conclusion: you are a functional retard.



ALL THE ABOVE IS IN YOUR POST HISTORY!
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