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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

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Posted on 8/20/21 at 8:59 am to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:00 am to
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I just don’t see how it can


They'll do something drastic between here and midterms, and bribe the press. Probably more COVID fear or they'll try to expand health care coverage.

We've seen this many times over.
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:05 am to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:09 am to
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They’re saying they can spin it into a positive and a good thing that Biden handled well.


I mean. their core progressives will buy it. For sure, they're the most easily duped people on the planet.

Independents might not be so easy to convince and that's who wins you elections.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:12 am to
Someone posted ITT earlier a tweet from some idiot about how they were pissed that CNN was ragging on Biden for the Afghanistan debacle
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:12 am to
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Then what made Trump sign a peace treaty with them? Im not trying to take shots or anything, I am actually curious.



They may or may not be "more tolerant" however that may end up defined. In Trump's eyes (and frankly a lot of Americans) the choice was stay forever or figure a way to get out. No one wanted the stay forever part, unless they were part of the MIC.

So then the question was how to get out. The best path out was to recognize the Taliban was going to have some say in the long term in Afghanistan and deal with them the best we could. The initial plan was to allow the Taliban to control certain districts, have seats in the Afghanistan government, and try to bring them along as long as they were "behaving".

The plan was actually working fairly well until the Taliban figured out they could have all of Afghanistan and Biden wasn't going to do shite. I am pretty sure the Chinese were very busy whispering in their ears all along. Biden really, really, really fricked this up.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:13 am to
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Someone posted ITT earlier a tweet from some idiot about how they were pissed that CNN was ragging on Biden for the Afghanistan debacle


Oh yea, true believers don't care about truth. There's several in this thread.

Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:14 am to
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They'll do something drastic between here and midterms, and bribe the press.

They don't need to bribe the press. The press hates Republicans more than the taliban so they'll take it upon themselves to make the about face without an ounce of shame.
Posted by kengel2
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:15 am to
Marcus Luttrell interview

Pretty good, gets choked up at the end. Need to let the boys loose Joe.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:15 am to
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They don't need to bribe the press. The press hates Republicans more than the taliban


The press has been bought off for a couple decades, they'll double down to shut dissent.

Networks currently criticizing the president will find themselves in a favorable position soon.
This post was edited on 8/20/21 at 9:16 am
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:17 am to
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You cant blame Biden for whats happening now and not blame Trump, he is bigly responsible as well. He literally negotiated this withdrawal with the Taliban and was mad because we dint withdrawal all our troops by May like he wanted.



Yes you can. All you have to do is look at the territories controlled by the Taliban in January, February, March, through now. When Trump left office the Taliban were pretty well contained they started rolling through the country after Trump was out and Biden didn't stop them. Biden didn't even send them a strongly worded letter. Then Biden acts like this is a big surprise? BS. This is soundly at Biden's feet.


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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:17 am to
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Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:19 am to
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Pretty good, gets choked up at the end. Need to let the boys loose Joe.


I'm pretty sure someone in the Admin is thinking Mogadishu all over again. If the US troops go into the city.

Honestly, they have probably missed the boat on getting folks out door to door. Thousands of Foreign fighters and extremists were supposed to get to Kabul today.
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Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:20 am to
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You cant blame Biden for whats happening now and not blame Trump, he is bigly responsible as well. He literally negotiated this withdrawal with the Taliban and was mad because we dint withdrawal all our troops by May like he wanted.

You can very easily blame Biden for the current situation. Negotiating a withdrawal and executing that withdrawal are mutually exclusive. We've had 2 decades to understand the capabilities and mindset of the taliban and the Afghan people. The fact that Biden believed that he had a 2 month cushion before full Taliban takeover shows just how inept he and his top advisers really are.
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:23 am to
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Youre going to get a very clear picture of what happened over there when he gets back



As soon as he gets headed back and is in Germany heading back I am on my way to Campbell. Need to lay hands on him after this and buy him some beers. Him and his guys.
Posted by UASports23
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:24 am to
Well keep in mind, in March, that Milley got emotional and pleaded to keep troops or this very thing would happen.

Biden just didn't listen to advisors. This was more of a unilateral decision from this admin than you think.
Posted by upgrayedd
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:24 am to
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As soon as he gets headed back and is in Germany heading back I am on my way to Campbell. Need to lay hands on him after this and buy him some beers. Him and his guys.
Posted by SlidellCajun
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Posted on 8/20/21 at 9:26 am to
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The press has been bought off for a couple decades, they'll double down to shut dissent.


Just yesterday morning on msnbS they were saying how short term the memory is for Americans and this Will be a non factor for the elections in 16 months.

They only care about spin. That’s it
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