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re: Taliban has taken Kabul. Terrorist attack at Airport at least 12 marines confirmed killed

Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:02 pm to
Posted by Champagne
Sabine Free State.
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:02 pm to
In order to maintain Taliban restraint from mortar-bombing the airport, the USA is going to have to pay up BIG time.

I understand that there are some funds held up in the USA that the Taliban may wish to have? What's stopping the Taliban from holding hostages until that money is sent to the Taliban?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12648 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:02 pm to
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Your list was terrible. No, the War in Iraq, while terrible, is nowhere near as bad as this.
It wasn't terrible. You acknowledged that in the moment. We also weren't arguing this particular point, and it doesn't change the fact that you said there were "no worse ideas in US history" then immediately named two yourself.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:06 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46422 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:02 pm to
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Any data at the embassy should have already been back at the State Dept or CIA in electronic form before it was destroyes.


Yes, it should have but it wasn’t.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:03 pm to
So what are you suggesting by saying that? That we should stay there permanently? Because as soon as the US leaves the Taliban will step in, doesn’t matter how backward they are or what year it is
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30053 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:03 pm to
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Ok. Did he say it was safe and stay put? That's what was claimed.


Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12648 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:03 pm to
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Yes, it should have but it wasn’t.
How do you know?
Posted by LegendInMyMind
Member since Apr 2019
75837 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:04 pm to
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So what are you suggesting by saying that? That we should stay there permanently?

I've never said that, and please take your talking points elsewhere.
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12648 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:04 pm to
That's from months after the time frame we are talking about, and it definitely doesn't say things are safe.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:05 pm
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46422 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:05 pm to
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Ok. Did he say it was safe and stay put? That's what was claimed.

No, he didn’t. It was likely interpreted that way by those who stayed. Americans have a false sense of safety in that we’ve not been vulnerable in this way for a while.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
30053 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:05 pm to
The State Department directed the Embassy to issue a Shelter In Place notification which royally screwed things up even further for Americans trying to get out.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:05 pm to
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Why would Biden admin tell us there are thousands of Americans stuck there?
. Link?
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12648 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:06 pm to
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The State Department directed the Embassy to issue a Shelter In Place notification which royally screwed things up even further for Americans trying to get out.

In early July? That's the time we are talking about.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:09 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:07 pm to
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It wasn't terrible. You acknowledged that in the moment. We also weren't arguing this particular point, and it doesn't change the fact that you said there were none then immediately named two yourself.


I’m just saying they all pail in comparison to this. Losing Saigon is not going to have near the snowball effect as this will. Trump mostly took care of the snowball effect of the War in Iraq. This has the potential to open up war on three fronts: Afghanistan, Taiwan, and Ukraine.
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:08 pm to
The people of Afghanistan don’t want a US presence there. How quickly the Taliban took over proves that. They prefer the Taliban over a foreign(non Muslim) presence
Posted by Pfft
Member since Jul 2014
5159 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:09 pm to
Baw, you jus trawlin’
Posted by LSUGrrrl
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2007
46422 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:10 pm to
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How do you know?

They said so. This was part of the story the first night when it all went to shite.
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
120445 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:10 pm to
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The people of Afghanistan don’t want a US presence there. How quickly the Taliban took over proves that. They prefer the Taliban over a foreign(non Muslim) presence


Given how big of pussies we are over here over masks and doing what this shite show of a government orders us to do, where do you get the balls judging the Afghanis with the Taliban, who are going to be every bit as violent and genocidal towards them as the Japanese were in World War II?
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:11 pm
Posted by Gravitiger
Member since Jun 2011
12648 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:11 pm to
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I’m just saying they all pail in comparison to this. Losing Saigon is not going to have near the snowball effect as this will. Trump mostly took care of the snowball effect of the War in Iraq. This has the potential to open up war on three fronts: Afghanistan, Taiwan, and Ukraine.
Losing Saigon ultimately got us Reagan, victory over USSR (because we weren't focused on bullshite proxy wars), and reassertion of our international dominance in virtually every way.

I have more faith in America than you do.
This post was edited on 8/19/21 at 7:16 pm
Posted by sabes que
Member since Jan 2010
10156 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:11 pm to
You think the average Afghani prefers a foreign/Christian presence, over the Taliban? Lol that country is super uneducated and fricked a thousand ways. They 100 percent prefer the Taliban over us.
Posted by CoastLSUFan
Member since Nov 2010
751 posts
Posted on 8/19/21 at 7:12 pm to
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Rep. Garamendi: “We’re going to send American troops in the heart and into the streets of Kabul to extract people? Those guys at that airport are probably chomping at the bit to go. This guy is an entirely different species than the soldiers at that airport. He doesn’t have the capacity to understand what they are made of and what they would do and how far they would go for their fellow Americans.


Not to mention the Brits are successfully doing exactly that.
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