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Systematic Racism
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:41 am
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:41 am
Can anyone enlighten me more on how black people in this country are a product of systematic racism? The only systematic racism I know of is what the Democratic Party does to their black voters.
Feed them, give them money so that they become dependent on the government. Handicap them so that they feel like you are their only source of help. Make them scared, brainwash them about whitey so that they never vote for the other side because they’re scared.
These are the tactics the Democratic Party has used for the last 20-30 years in order to get votes, and there are probably more. This is real systematic racism yet these people refuse to even believe this as an actual thing. I just don’t understand how people can’t see these things, but instead believe that conservatives are the ones holding them back?
Feed them, give them money so that they become dependent on the government. Handicap them so that they feel like you are their only source of help. Make them scared, brainwash them about whitey so that they never vote for the other side because they’re scared.
These are the tactics the Democratic Party has used for the last 20-30 years in order to get votes, and there are probably more. This is real systematic racism yet these people refuse to even believe this as an actual thing. I just don’t understand how people can’t see these things, but instead believe that conservatives are the ones holding them back?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:46 am to sta4ever
I think systemic is the term you are looking for but I can't help with defining it for you.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:48 am to sta4ever
Lots of folks were subject to systematic racism in years past but they were still able to do better as groups over time. I think the issue is more that the Dems have provided conditions to keep black peoples reliant on government and provide them a card to escape responsibility.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:50 am to sta4ever
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Feed them, give them money so that they become dependent on the government.
Do you realize why this is done? Can you imagine the surrounding areas of the hood if the money and food stopped flowing. God have mercy on the suburbs.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:51 am to sta4ever
it's how you view the situation. systemic racism is a belief that requires a meta view, primarily based around the concept of institutions and results-oriented thinking/analysis. effectively, the philosophy says that since outcomes are different if you divide the population into racial groups, then there must be some institutional-level reason why the outcomes aren't equal.
as your personal beliefs and views narrow more towards the individual level, this will seem more like poppycock
the institutional thinkers, in turn, will see your individual-level analysis as poppycock the more it narrows
as your personal beliefs and views narrow more towards the individual level, this will seem more like poppycock
the institutional thinkers, in turn, will see your individual-level analysis as poppycock the more it narrows
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:53 am to sta4ever
If you read critical race theory, it explains it in great detail. What is boils down to is that the greatness of America was built on the backs of slavery, colonization and genocide of indigenous peoples (People of Color). That our system of gov't was designed by whites for whites and that it inherently has biases towards whites. Therefore the white majority implements laws, sterotypes and other cultural controls to either gentrify black culture or suppress blacks.
If you read through the history of critical race theory and look at their evidence they have a good cause up until the civil rights movement of the 1960s. There was systemic racism built into the American system with things like Jim Crow laws, reading requirements, poll test. All things designed to keep minorities from gaining political power. Most of that disappeared with the Republican let civil rights acts in the 1960s. Since then, the cultural racism faced by minorities has decreased but has not disappeared.
If you read through the history of critical race theory and look at their evidence they have a good cause up until the civil rights movement of the 1960s. There was systemic racism built into the American system with things like Jim Crow laws, reading requirements, poll test. All things designed to keep minorities from gaining political power. Most of that disappeared with the Republican let civil rights acts in the 1960s. Since then, the cultural racism faced by minorities has decreased but has not disappeared.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 8:57 am
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:55 am to sta4ever
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Can anyone enlighten me more on how black people in this country are a product of systematic racism? The only systematic racism I know of is what the Democratic Party does to their black voters.
You already know the answer to the question
Posted on 5/28/20 at 8:58 am to sta4ever
A black couple slept in the White House for eight years. Did they get there because of racism?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:01 am to FreddieMac
the biggest issue with CRT is how asians managed to overtake white people in terms of education, salary, etc. i imagine their pathological rates are lower, too. if we are arguing that our society is systemically advantageous for white people, we done goofed
that's why the overall argument about "race" loses. it's really a question about black/brown disadvantages (and not white advantage)
going too polar either way won't solve anything, but the people who bark loudest about this issue push polar arguments
that's why the overall argument about "race" loses. it's really a question about black/brown disadvantages (and not white advantage)
going too polar either way won't solve anything, but the people who bark loudest about this issue push polar arguments
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:02 am to sta4ever
Systematic racism is the idea that the system was at one time absolutely tilted against blacks through law enforcement, the court system, de jure segregation, education system, red-lining, etc, and now, even though de-jure segregation and red-lining are supposedly over, the effects of those old systems still oppress and hold blacks back. Some of it is bullshite, but some of it isn’t.
Often, this involves major “chicken or the egg” quandaries where any negative statistic outcome for blacks at a macro level is presumed to be the result of systemic racism. Are blacks committing more crimes or is our court system and law enforcement system harsher to African Americans, prosecuting them for crimes which they wouldn’t likely prosecute to the same extent against whites? Are the poor health outcomes of blacks a result of poor health behaviors in black culture or a medical system that exploits them? Are blacks failing the public school system or are the public school systems failing blacks? Are broken homes in the black community attributable to overpolicing and prohibition locking up black fathers?
While I would argue entitlements and the culture they influence are largely responsible for these issues in the black community, one can see how one conditioned and motivated to see race at the bottom of every issue can find race as the bottom of every issue.
I would add that systematic racism also includes “reverse racism” such as affirmative action/diversity hiring/college admissions and specific government programs that discriminate based on race in order to lift minorities out of poverty. On the flip side, adherents to critical race theory would argue that those are not examples of systemic racism but rather the kinds of corrective measures (that don’t go far enough) which should be used to right the wrongs of prior systemic racism.
Thus, when trying to correct systemic racism, solutions boil down to two theories of law and life: equality vs equity. Equality means that everyone is treated the same. Equity means everyone has the same outcome. Equality is free market capitalism with a government that protects individual liberties. Equity is communism where government intervenes to ensure everyone has the same outcome.
Those pushing for equity and critical race theory tend to be closeted or avowed communists who seek to use the power of the state to inflict retribution rather than free people to make their own prosperity.
Often, this involves major “chicken or the egg” quandaries where any negative statistic outcome for blacks at a macro level is presumed to be the result of systemic racism. Are blacks committing more crimes or is our court system and law enforcement system harsher to African Americans, prosecuting them for crimes which they wouldn’t likely prosecute to the same extent against whites? Are the poor health outcomes of blacks a result of poor health behaviors in black culture or a medical system that exploits them? Are blacks failing the public school system or are the public school systems failing blacks? Are broken homes in the black community attributable to overpolicing and prohibition locking up black fathers?
While I would argue entitlements and the culture they influence are largely responsible for these issues in the black community, one can see how one conditioned and motivated to see race at the bottom of every issue can find race as the bottom of every issue.
I would add that systematic racism also includes “reverse racism” such as affirmative action/diversity hiring/college admissions and specific government programs that discriminate based on race in order to lift minorities out of poverty. On the flip side, adherents to critical race theory would argue that those are not examples of systemic racism but rather the kinds of corrective measures (that don’t go far enough) which should be used to right the wrongs of prior systemic racism.
Thus, when trying to correct systemic racism, solutions boil down to two theories of law and life: equality vs equity. Equality means that everyone is treated the same. Equity means everyone has the same outcome. Equality is free market capitalism with a government that protects individual liberties. Equity is communism where government intervenes to ensure everyone has the same outcome.
Those pushing for equity and critical race theory tend to be closeted or avowed communists who seek to use the power of the state to inflict retribution rather than free people to make their own prosperity.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 9:43 am
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:08 am to Diamondawg
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I think systemic is the term you are looking for but I can't help with defining it for you.
Probably, but systematic could also work: as in a methodical, organized manner.
If it is but one thing, the Dem platform is planned and purposeful exploitation and division of groups.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:15 am to sta4ever
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Systematic Racism
Democratic Party owning +92% of the black vote...bc its in Black interest to vote democrat! “You ain’t Black”
No other race is owned controlled like that.
Even when polled on particular topics/subjects, black voters are split or lean majority conservative (1st & 2nd amendment, gay rights, capitalism, freedom of religion, taxes), very similar on polls before “the War on poverty” but come Election Day....
Larry Elder is the absolute best explaining this!
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 9:19 am
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:17 am to sta4ever
Black criminality and black social pathologies are entrenched in our country . We are not allowed to discuss what 80% of black children born out of wedlock produces. Only Progressive platitudes like “ systemic racism” are allowed. You don’t have to prove it’s existence, as the platitude is just accepted as incontrovertible truth. This will never change. As long as there is an America, black Americans will be singled out for pity, condescension and the implicit racism of low expectations.Accept it. And respect every black American who opts out of thIs pitiful social paradigm.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:18 am to sta4ever
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Can anyone enlighten me more on how black people in this country are a product of systemic racism?
They aren't.
Just like White/Latino/Asian people, they are their own worst enemies.
It's called being human I think.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:19 am to Lsupimp
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Black criminality and black social pathologies are entrenched in our country . We are not allowed to discuss what 80% of black children born out of wedlock produces. Only Progressive platitudes like “ systemic racism” are allowed.
Too bad Larry Elder doesn’t get enough attention or asked to debate on Racial injustices
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:22 am to bstew3006
I’ll start by saying that no matter the color of your skin we all experience confirmation bias and should check that as much as possible at the door in these discussions.
The best studies I’ve show that systemic racism does exist. Higher sentencing rates for blacks and Latinos for the same crimes (controlling for things like previous convictions, education, etc.). Higher rates of non-violent force in arrests for blacks. Etc.
To the extent the above facts are true they are aspects of our institutions that are horrendous and should not exist in a society that truly values justice.
The best studies I’ve show that systemic racism does exist. Higher sentencing rates for blacks and Latinos for the same crimes (controlling for things like previous convictions, education, etc.). Higher rates of non-violent force in arrests for blacks. Etc.
To the extent the above facts are true they are aspects of our institutions that are horrendous and should not exist in a society that truly values justice.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:30 am to kingbob
The destruction of the black family can be traced directly back to the Great Society changes, in which single motherhood was subsidized.
Making the man unnecessary at best, or unwanted at worst, created a cycle where you have unwed black mothers on welfare who will kick out men they would have stayed with in previous years because the government has replaced the man as breadwinner.
That’s not to say the men are great under all circumstances, but you now have about 3-4 generations in which the man was just a glorified speed donor and not a husband or father.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan called this shite back in the 60s and was shouted down over it.
Making the man unnecessary at best, or unwanted at worst, created a cycle where you have unwed black mothers on welfare who will kick out men they would have stayed with in previous years because the government has replaced the man as breadwinner.
That’s not to say the men are great under all circumstances, but you now have about 3-4 generations in which the man was just a glorified speed donor and not a husband or father.
Daniel Patrick Moynihan called this shite back in the 60s and was shouted down over it.
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:32 am to abitaman6363
You probably didn’t even realize it, but you started with the premise that blacks are already engaging in criminality. How about we discuss what happens before black Americans get to that point. What happens PRIOR to that? What has occurred that makes well- meaning people like you jump STRAIGHT to a discussion of arrest and conviction?
Posted on 5/28/20 at 9:33 am to sta4ever
It's "systemic," and it's meant to be used as a means to "explain" the vast difference in achievement levels between the two groups over the past 10 thousand years or so.
The real reason for the difference is socially and politically unacceptable. Hence, the blame game.
The real reason for the difference is socially and politically unacceptable. Hence, the blame game.
This post was edited on 5/28/20 at 9:35 am
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