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re: Swedish study shows Vaccine Spike Protein Enters Nucleus

Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:50 pm to
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 11/21/21 at 5:50 pm to
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Not posting the links


Yeah I get the issue but it opens up the argument that your published like a chiropractor writing about how to read X-rays in auto accident cases.

To be honest, I do not know the answer to the op and that research but I personally know of bad consequences from the vaccine and how dangers it is.
Posted by dafif
Member since Jan 2019
8409 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 6:00 pm to
Some idiot downvotes a factual statement about how dangerous… ignorance at its best
Posted by jimmy the leg
Member since Aug 2007
44197 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 7:57 pm to
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With the mRNA vaccines, the long term effects are speculation. Educated speculation for sure, but speculation nonetheless.


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Of course all have some issues, but the rates of those issues has decreased significantly. The rate of myocarditis associated with the smallpox vaccine was 1 in 200, and the overall injury rate was alarmingly high, as was the breakthrough CFR.


We will see. Given my circumstances, I choose to pass on the vaccine at this time.
Posted by PassingThrough
Member since Sep 2021
2622 posts
Posted on 11/21/21 at 11:04 pm to
For what it is worth, I have always thought of the immune system and the rest of the organism as two separate beings that ended up evolving together in a symbiosis which is not always benign. It is an amazing patchwork of redundant systems, but at the same time, it can kill you quicker than most infectious causes.

For many, the worst effects of the virus are due to the immune system going a bit too hard to the wall and blowing your body up. So if your body over-reacts to the vaccine, there is a high probability it would have over-reacted to the virus as well and you would have been screwed anyway.

As for cancer, every bad life choice we make and just living in the current environment is almost certainly a far greater risk factor than any vaccine ever will be.

I do find the sex-linked dichotomy fascinating, especially since most immune-mediated disease is over-represented in women, but men are suffering the worse symtoms with this. I think the craziest paper I have read on this disease is that the sex of a fetus appears to directly affect the immune response of the mother.

I also think it is worth mentioning our immune systems themselves are constantly evolving. I am old enough to remember when it was rare to come across someone with a peanut allergy or IBD, but that is certainly not the case these days.
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