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re: study shows welfare prevents crime, quite dramatically

Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:54 pm to
Posted by oogabooga68
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:54 pm to
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study shows welfare prevents crime, quite dramatically


Serious question, but I think we know the answer: Do you believe Trans-women are women?
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:57 pm to
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They didn’t choose that terrible existence.


Those slaves were descended from people who enslaved, conquered and murdered other people.

I know you have a hatred for white men, but you need to go back to Reddit with that WhiteGuilt/NobleSavage bullzhit.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 1:59 pm to
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Just look at all the commentary on here relative to the topic of 'they are going to take our guns away" - you have everything from simple noncompliance to threats of felonious activity as the probably result. And I include myself somewhere on that spectrum.


The second is an unalienable right. Robbing someone's income because you refuse to work isnt.


Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:12 pm to
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if that were true, why do we still have people committing crimes worthy of death sentences? The death penalty existed since our country was colonized.


It’s been more than 20 years since a lot of states have put people to death. We also stopped doing death sentences for certain crimes like rape.


So crime has increased as we have put less people to death.

Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61110 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:28 pm to
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Hell, slavery (including the open buying/selling of them) still exists in Africa today.
if exists in some Arab countries as well.

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the descendants of African slaves who were brought to the US (which was only a small fraction of the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade, much less worldwide and/or historical slavery) are so uniquely victimized by just the existence of this knowledge of their ancestry that it causes them to be unable to succeed in Western society without long-term handouts.
I don’t think it’s the knowledge of the existence of slavery that’s the impediment, it’s all the residual affects. The mass incarceration of black men. The destruction of the black family. The implicit and explicit white supremacist ideals that dominant western society. The end of slavery did not mean the end of discrimination, and we all know that.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:33 pm to
The black family was more intact prior to 1965. So, one hundred years after the Civil War, 76% of black babies were born to married women, from 1890 to 1950: black labor participation rates were higher than whites.

It is foolish to suggest that blacks face MORE “oppression and racism” now than then.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:35 pm to
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from 1890 to 1950: black labor participation rates were higher than whites.


I've heard black labor participation rates were really high prior to that.
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:36 pm to
Posted by DarkDrifter
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 2:48 pm to
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study shows welfare prevents crime, quite dramatically


Ell... Oh... frickING ..Elllll... At this horseshite..
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61110 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:03 pm to
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It is foolish to suggest that blacks face MORE “oppression and racism” now than then.
I don’t think anyone is arguing that. Oppression definitely looks different now than it did then, too.

Why did you bring up the stat about the kids being born to married moms prior to 1965? Were you implying that racism had/has something to do with that? I’m not trying to have a gotcha, I just want to understand the point you were making.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 3:10 pm
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:11 pm to
The devolvement of the culture, and therefore the increase in incarceration rate / crimes committed, is correlated with broken homes and out of wedlock births.

I am very lucky to have had an involved, loving FATHER
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61110 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:24 pm to
So you’re not a pilot of black helicopters?
Posted by BlackHelicopterPilot
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52841 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:24 pm to
Can I not be both?



ETA: I did NOT downvote your post
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 3:28 pm
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28042 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:26 pm to
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The devolvement of the culture, and therefore the increase in incarceration rate / crimes committed, is correlated with broken homes and out of wedlock births.


And that cancer doesn't care what color your skin is. Plenty of folks with white & light brown skin fall into the same pattern and it chews them all up just the same.
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61110 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:28 pm to
Mystery solved.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:28 pm to
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from 1890 to 1950: black labor participation rates were higher than whites.


It bothers the hell out of me to think "some" people want to force dependency on the poor rather than give opportunity.

I would start by clearing all non violent drug crimes from records, and offer opportunity zones.

Seems better than welfare
Posted by 4cubbies
Member since Sep 2008
61110 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:29 pm to
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offer opportunity zones.


What are these?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
298305 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 3:39 pm to
Tax incentives to draw industry to impoverished areas, hire local, suspend sales tax in areas for local businesspeople. Reduction in barriers to entry for entrepreneurs.

Rand Paul has proposed these for years, no one cares about real issues it seems.

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WASHINGTON, D.C. – Yesterday, U.S. Senators Rand Paul and Mitch McConnell reintroduced the Economic Freedom Zones Act. This legislation will establish free market enterprise zones and dramatically reduce taxes to help facilitate the creation of new jobs and entrepreneurial opportunities, enhance and renew educational opportunities, and increase community involvement in bankrupt or economically distressed areas.

“The Economic Freedom Zones Act will bring hope to struggling communities by relieving the oppressive, big government burdens weighing them down,” said Senator Paul. “It’s time the federal government stop picking winners and losers and instead trust in the ingenuity of the American people.”




Throwing money at the problem is unsustainable, and recycles poverty.
This post was edited on 10/26/23 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Matt225
St. George
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/26/23 at 5:18 pm to
Detroit, Chicago, and New Orleans say hi
Posted by oogabooga68
Member since Nov 2018
27194 posts
Posted on 10/26/23 at 5:33 pm to
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Throwing money at the problem is unsustainable, and recycles poverty.


Throwing money at a problem is the PERFECT Liberal solution: It requires no work, no sacrifice on the part of Liberals, they use OTHER PEOPLE'S HARD EARNED MONEY and they can walk away feeling extremely proud of themselves, then subsequently virtue-signal on and on and on about how much they have helped when they've actually done the opposite.
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