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Study shows charter school performance debunking DeVos critics
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:55 am
Posted on 4/18/18 at 9:55 am
The National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), often described as the nation's report card, provides the best way to compare academic achievement over time and across different states. Every other year, representative samples of fourth- and eighth-graders across the country take the tests in math and reading to gauge the effectiveness of our education systems.
The initial take on this year's NAEP results has hardly been enthusiastic. During the eight-year period covering the Obama administration's term in office, the nation's math scores stayed flat while reading scores improved slightly. For Michigan, which lags the nation, the changes were no less disappointing. The state as a whole is still below average, and its largest city, Detroit, was rated the worst-performing urban district for the fifth time running. But charter schools in the state, and in the nation as a whole, are on a major upswing.
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The initial take on this year's NAEP results has hardly been enthusiastic. During the eight-year period covering the Obama administration's term in office, the nation's math scores stayed flat while reading scores improved slightly. For Michigan, which lags the nation, the changes were no less disappointing. The state as a whole is still below average, and its largest city, Detroit, was rated the worst-performing urban district for the fifth time running. But charter schools in the state, and in the nation as a whole, are on a major upswing.
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Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:23 am to Jjdoc
that link doesn't connect to the study
but i did see one last week from a left-leaning think tank that also gave an upbeat assessment of charters catching up to their regular-public counterparts (for Texas)
this image shows a fairly-fast catching up, and a nearly-closed gap. that's consistent with this report of the NAEP study. this one's for math scores (quartiles):
the same graph for reading scores showed a much smaller initial gap and quicker closing of that gap, although they're still not totally caught up at the end of the window analyzed (2011). but it's likely they've basically caught up by now.
The Evolution of Charter School Quality
but i did see one last week from a left-leaning think tank that also gave an upbeat assessment of charters catching up to their regular-public counterparts (for Texas)
this image shows a fairly-fast catching up, and a nearly-closed gap. that's consistent with this report of the NAEP study. this one's for math scores (quartiles):
the same graph for reading scores showed a much smaller initial gap and quicker closing of that gap, although they're still not totally caught up at the end of the window analyzed (2011). but it's likely they've basically caught up by now.
The Evolution of Charter School Quality
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:24 am to Jjdoc
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But charter schools in the state, and in the nation as a whole, are on a major upswing.
When you get to cherry pick the top students, you should be on a "major upswing."
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:27 am to Jjdoc
I recall seeing graphs showing national math scores essentially flat for the past 70 years, with spending per pupil rising steadily every year.
Maybe throwing money at the problem of lack of parental envolvement isn’t a cure.
Maybe throwing money at the problem of lack of parental envolvement isn’t a cure.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:27 am to CoachChappy
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get to cherry pick the top students
the study i linked controls for that to see how big a deal it is
it matters, but the actual quality gap is still closing
if over time, the gap in average quality is statistically zero (let alone if charters wind up slightly better), the arguments against them becomes pretty weak
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:37 am to 90proofprofessional
From what i have seen, the difference is parents who give a shite about their childs education vs cherry picking top students.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:38 am to Jjdoc
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This post was edited on 10/1/20 at 11:39 am
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:39 am to jimjackandjose
either one of those sources of "student quality" can mask the contribution of the school itself, and the quality of the school is what's at issue here
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:43 am to Jjdoc
Jesus youre a liar.
By whom?
There is not one viable link or cited source of information in this entire article. The news you read is just propaganda machine material and you are just a hack.
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The National Assessment of Educational Progress (NAEP), often described as the nation's report card,
By whom?
There is not one viable link or cited source of information in this entire article. The news you read is just propaganda machine material and you are just a hack.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:44 am to 90proofprofessional
It's the NAEP report
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:47 am to Jjdoc
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It's the NAEP report
yeah no shite
your op article doesn't even link it
although it does bring up a point worth discussion, it is in fact a lame advocacy piece. so you're welcome for my addition of a quality study
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:48 am to Ebbandflow
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By whom?
NAEP is a congressionally mandated project administered by the National Center for Education Statistics, within the Institute of Education Sciences of the U.S. Department of Education.
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There is not one viable link or cited source of information in this entire article.
It's the NAEP annual report.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 10:57 am to Jjdoc
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:12 am to CoachChappy
Charters don't cherry pick. They are usually taking black, urban kids who are way behind the curve.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:13 am to 90proofprofessional
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:19 am to Jjdoc
that doesn't point to their charter vs regular school assessments at all
that's like actually worse than telling me to google it
that's like actually worse than telling me to google it
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:24 am to prplhze2000
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Charters don't cherry pick. They are usually taking black, urban kids who are way behind the curve.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:24 am to CoachChappy
quote:My kid will be starting Kindergarten in the fall at a local charter school. They were picked from a lottery and because they're in, their siblings will also get first dibs when it's their turn.
When you get to cherry pick the top students, you should be on a "major upswing."
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:28 am to Jjdoc
Not sure what the answer is to our education problems.
But frick progressives for completely backing teacher unions and claiming to be open to any new ideas. They are 100% against breaking the status quo and fight every effort to introduce more accountability and competition in their field. The Democrat's loyalty is to the special interests, and not to the kids.
But frick progressives for completely backing teacher unions and claiming to be open to any new ideas. They are 100% against breaking the status quo and fight every effort to introduce more accountability and competition in their field. The Democrat's loyalty is to the special interests, and not to the kids.
Posted on 4/18/18 at 11:31 am to member12
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Not sure what the answer is to our education problems.
Parents. Until welfare is reformed, parents and kids will not see/understand the value of an education. I've had many students over the years tell me that their mom doesn't have an education, but she does have a car, house, big screen TV, food, newest cellphone, and cash for fun. We have to break the cycle and stop enabling these people.
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