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re: Study finds that foreign firms paid 4% of tariff burden in 2025, while Americans ate 96%

Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:02 pm to
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relevant


Relevant to what?

The study in question is examining if tariffs are paid for by American importers/consumers or if foreign countries are eating it for us as political rhetoric has suggested.

That’s all that is happening here.

But to answer your question: I don’t know of any corporation who wants to make less money, so on the off chance their increased cost hasn’t trickled down yet, it certainly will eventually. It’s probably not sustainable otherwise.
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 2:05 pm
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:03 pm to
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Even if they didn't, a big part of the tarrifs was to make American producers more competitive. Go look at the job numbers and tell me this didn't happen!
Which jobs specifically are you referring to? The BLS reports manufacturing employment down over 68,000 jobs since this time last year. LINK

If you’ve got a source that shows a different trend, post the link or citation so we can compare apples to apples rather than just assertions. If your numbers are coming from somewhere other than the BLS payroll survey, I’d like to see what source and series you’re looking at.
Posted by JimEverett
Member since May 2020
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:05 pm to
What I do not understand - the study claims almost $4 trillion in goods was looked at. $200 billion in tariffs on that $4 trillion. That is 5%. If we are talking about 20%+ tariffs on goods then then the numbers so not make sense to me. 5% seems very low given that the article references 50% tariffs on Brazil and India goods. We know the tariffs are much more than 5% on Chinese, EU, etc.

To put it another way - the effective tariff rate on all goods imported to the U.S. is right around 11% So what happened to the other $200 billion+? 11% of $4trillion should be over $400 billion, but his study is only saying $200 billion was collected.
Or is this study combining the tariff regime of the last year of Biden with the first year of Trump2? If so, then what is the increase? Because there is no way the last year of Biden collected zero tariffs.
Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:07 pm to
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JimEverett

All good questions. I do remember that they gave out tariff exceptions to some companies. Could our largest importers being granted those exceptions explain the difference?
Posted by Ten Bears
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:08 pm to
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The study in question is examining if tariffs are paid for by American importers/consumers or if foreign countries are eating it for us as political rhetoric as suggested.



The study showed that for every 10% tariff increase, exporters reduced their price by approximately 0.39%, which is mostly negligible.

I think there has been a lot of hope, by some, that tariffs were magic money; revenue that simply appeared with little to no economic consequence.

Whatever the economic result may or may not be, tariffs are tax, and that tax is paid by either an American company or an American consumer and it is deposited in the US Treasury just as any other tax is. So, in effect, whatever revenues tariffs generated could be better utilized by the private sector.

Or they can simply keep on funding other government boondoggles like the Somolian Daycare Centers



This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 2:11 pm
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:12 pm to
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while Americans ate 96%
What items have you seen that increased in price due to the tariffs?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:14 pm to
Aluminum and steel costs from fabricators have increased.

Some of this has been because they can, however. As even our American manufacturers raised prices because the foreign companies were. It just reset the market floor.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:15 pm to
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What items have you seen that increased in price due to the tariffs?

Coffee, electronics like RAM.

Playstation, Nintendo and Xbox all raised console prices to offset tariffs.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:17 pm to
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Playstation, Nintendo and Xbox all raised console prices to offset tariffs.
MY GOD! How will we ever survive without those!!!!!

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Coffee
Folgers at Walmart is $38 for 40.3 oz. Roughly 300 cups.
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 2:20 pm
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:19 pm to
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Coffee


No, it hasn’t. You just read an article about it.
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:20 pm to
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What items have you seen that increased in price due to the tariffs?


Pretty much everything in my line of work.
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:20 pm to
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Pretty much everything in my line of work.
Surely you can be more specific than that.
Posted by northshorebamaman
Mackinac Island
Member since Jul 2009
38339 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:21 pm to
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Coffee, electronics like RAM.

Playstation, Nintendo and Xbox all raised console prices to offset tariffs.
Amazon's ceo acknowledged that tariffs were starting to drive up prices on that platform the other day.
Posted by sgallo3
Lake Charles
Member since Sep 2008
27187 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:22 pm to
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Folgers at Walmart is $38 for 40.3 oz. Roughly 300 cups.

And it was cheaper until tariffs hit.

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The company, which owns brands such as Folgers and Café Bustelo, has raised coffee prices twice this year to recoup some of its own higher costs. Smucker said Wednesday it is likely to do so again this winter, as the Trump administration’s tariffs deliver a bigger hit.

Chief Executive Mark Smucker said the company’s brands remain affordable relative to coffee shop purchases. “We expect the coffee category to remain resilient, despite recent inflationary pressures, given consumers’ love of daily coffee rituals,” he said
.
Posted by northshorebamaman
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:23 pm to
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Chief Executive Mark Smucker
He's gotta be good.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:23 pm to
Coffee prices on the shelf lag coffee bean prices by quite a bit. Most of the current increases in coffee prices on the shelf are due to a huge shortage in coffee beans in the rolling 12 month leading up to March 2025. Did your article not tell you that?
This post was edited on 1/20/26 at 2:25 pm
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
5054 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:24 pm to
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Surely you can be more specific than that.


Steel
PPE
Coatings
Insulation material
Scaffolding
Equipment
Vehicles

Shall I go on?
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:25 pm to
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Shall I go on?
Indeed.

I've yet to see any increase (that can be attributed to tariffs) in the prices of the products I purchase.
Posted by NawlinsTiger9
Where the mongooses roam
Member since Jan 2009
39658 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:25 pm to
Yeah, coffee was much more expensive - partly due to bad timing of the tariffs (weather apparently affected raw bean production), but also because of the tariffs themselves

We get a shitload of coffee from Brazil and there was a big tariff on them for a while.

Hell, there’s a reason Trump removed it in November
Posted by RollTide4547
Member since Dec 2024
4723 posts
Posted on 1/20/26 at 2:27 pm to
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And it was cheaper until tariffs hit.
How much cheaper and how much do you purchase a year? I might purchase a container every other month. I paid $2.31 a gallon for gasoline this morning and I purchase 15-16 gallons a week just for my commute to work.
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