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re: Study Confirms Vaccine-Linked Myocarditis Deaths for First Time

Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:32 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:32 am to
Yep.

Thanks for the assist.
Posted by Hightide12
Member since Nov 2012
2730 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:35 am to
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Employers can absolutely require vaccinations.

Are we using the definition of a vaccination pre covid or?

You know why.
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
Member since Oct 2007
26263 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:37 am to
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I’m under 40, normal weight and the risk of adverse affects from the vaccine were greater than getting covid.


Huh? You get covid19 regardless. Strange that you post that comment. It appears you are trying to imply you wont get covid19 if you get the vax. No research has shown that to be the case. At best it is delayed and then made worse. Well that is if you believe in science.
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
93130 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:39 am to
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Yeah, tell us more about GPS implants and company devices.



Condition of employment
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37006 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:39 am to
Troponin level is normally zero. Was the level of Troponin any kind of predictor as to the severity or progression of the myocarditis? I read the article but don't remember it mentioning Troponin.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23043 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:41 am to
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You are tracking company property.


Yeah bc they want to know where the phone is and not the person carrying it.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
86401 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:43 am to
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I mean, she literally just shite-canned her own post IN THAT SAME POST.

Care to point that out, because you didn't in your first post.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:44 am to
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Yeah bc they want to know where the phone is and not the person carrying it.


Correct.
Posted by crazy4lsu
Member since May 2005
39157 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:46 am to
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Troponin level is normally zero. Was the level of Troponin any kind of predictor as to the severity or progression of the myocarditis? I read the article but don't remember it mentioning Troponin.



The troponin reference was to the original smallpox vaccine, where the researchers compared the difference between elevated troponin levels (as a proxy for general myocardial injury) to the actual rate of confirmed myocarditis. I don't think these researchers used troponin at all as a reference marker.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23043 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:46 am to
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Correct


So what would they do if they notice the phone is at location A and the employee is supposed to be at location B? If they are only worried about the phone then the answer would be nothing.

The condition of employment is that the employee carries a GPS device. They are tracking the employee’s location VIA THE GPS ON THE PHONE.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 9:51 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:52 am to
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I don't think these researchers used troponin at all as a reference marker.


Seems like a fatal oversight. I realize there are several troponins but one is very specific to cardiac muscle. Seems like if you are following evolving cardiac damage you would also follow serial troponin levels. Thanks for you explanations, though.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:53 am to
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So what would they do if they notice the phone is at location A and the employee is supposed to be at location B? If they are only worried about the phone then the answer would be nothing.


Why would they do nothing? That seems like an idiotic policy.
Posted by the_truman_shitshow
Member since Aug 2021
2759 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:54 am to
Shhhh and take your Paxlovid pill for today.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23043 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 9:57 am to
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Why would they do nothing? That seems like an idiotic policy.


They obviously would do something bc you know they actually care where the person is and not where the phone is.

They are tracking the person via the phone.
This post was edited on 9/14/22 at 10:03 am
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
37006 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:00 am to
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Shhhh and take your Paxlovid pill for today.


Not how it works. Take 3 in the morning and 3 in the evening for a total of 5?? days. Don't remember. I was good to go after 48 hours but you still have to complete the entire package.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:04 am to
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They obviously would do something bc you know they are actually care where the person is and not where the phone is.

They are tracking the person via the phone.


Every use policy I've ever read or written says otherwise. It wouldn't be worth the legal trouble or the expense to use a company device simply to track an employee on their personal time.

You're arguing what might be done with the data if an employee is discovered doing something they shouldn't be doing, not tracking an employee's movement at all times.

And that's just another reason the GPS implant was a silly example.
Posted by STEVED00
Member since May 2007
23043 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:08 am to
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You're arguing what might be done with the data if an employee is discovered doing something they shouldn't be doing, not tracking an employee's movement at all times. And that's just another reason the GPS implant was a silly example.


Oh so now we are focusing on silly ideas. Obviously the GPS was a silly idea. That was why I said it. For the same reasons mandating the vaccine was a silly idea.

It was a silly idea to require a vaccine that
1. Wouldn’t prevent infection
2. Wouldn’t prevent spread
3. Was not as good as Natural Immunity (J&J vaccine was an “acceptable” vaccine so that’s the minimum. I believe the science it’s pretty settled that J&J vaccine treatment was pretty worthless and that any natural immunity would be as good but probably way better).
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
46029 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:09 am to
anytime, mijo
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
125229 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:11 am to
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J&J vaccine was an “acceptable” vaccine so that’s the minimum. I believe the science it’s pretty settled that J&J vaccine treatment was pretty worthless and that any natural immunity would be as good but probably way better


This is a really good point.

The JNJ vaccine was utter garbage. Yet it met the requirements of getting a vaccine. Just patent nonsense.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 9/14/22 at 10:31 am to
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For the same reasons mandating the vaccine was a silly idea.


Cool. Bad ideas aren't illegal.
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