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re: Student Expelled from College 4 Reporting an Illegal to ICE

Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:43 pm to
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:43 pm to
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I'd take the illegals over half these shitty Americans

Who, exactly, are you referring to?? "These"...who.
Posted by OchoDedos
Republic of Texas
Member since Oct 2014
39160 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 1:45 pm to
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And Trump wants her here.


Trump doesnt give two shits about some illegal Snowflake.

DACA is a bargaining chip, an ends to a means.

Trump also knows Senate Dims will never cave on a wall. So DACA goes bye-bye in the end.
Posted by PuddinPopPharmacist
Member since May 2017
790 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 2:52 pm to
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Well she was also bragging on facebook about being an unafraid and unapologetic illegal. She is also very active in campus left wing groups and pushing for amnesty as an illegal.


One reason I am so unsympathetic towards illegals is how brazen they are about having no respect for this country and how they are loyal to Mexico. They have to go back.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35371 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:19 pm to
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Breaking into a country is a crime
Isn't that the issue with the DACA program in the first place? They were brought with their parents or with another adult (or unaccompanied). And in that case wouldn't the crime only be applicable to adults?
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35371 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:24 pm to
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One reason I am so unsympathetic towards illegals is how brazen they are about having no respect for this country and how they are loyal to Mexico.
Well fewer than half of the illegal immigrants are from Mexico, so even if 100% of those from Mexico are loyal to Mexico , that would be less than 50% anyways. And since it's probably far less than 100%, it seems that your're basing this on a small minority.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35371 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:28 pm to
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So is it a crime if I want grab a bite to eat? Does it matter if the food is in your house and I am in there without permission
Unlawful presence is not a crime though, and in this case, this person was legally allowed to be here if she followed the conditions of DACA.
Posted by BBONDS25
Member since Mar 2008
56026 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 3:34 pm to
unlawful not being a crime does not mean she gets to stay. She would be subject to removal under section 212.
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:12 pm to
Is it me or is she hiding a smile throughout the video?
Posted by pressurized
Member since Aug 2013
595 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:14 pm to
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I'd take the illegals over half these shitty Americans



#MexicoWasNeverGreat
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:17 pm to
Zero problem with him being expelled. DACA kids are, technically, here legally. He was looking for attention. He got it.

If he was reporting some Latin Kings punk, sure. go ahead. No one would disagree with you. No average citizen anyway.
Posted by Wildcat In Germany
Metro Atlanta
Member since May 2017
3094 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:20 pm to
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There is something completely messed up when we take care of strangers over our own family.




Being born in America doesn't make you my family. Many of those who I share the same DNA with, well... they aren't my family. I would rather have a DACA kid who goes on to contribute to society over some hood or trailer dwelling drain on society every day of the year. DACA kids don't qualify for welfare.
Posted by Kirk Herbstreit
in the outhouse
Member since Jan 2005
6133 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 8:56 pm to
Unlawful presence is a crime. If you are in my house without permission you are trespassing.
Posted by Pinecone Repair
Gulf Shores
Member since Nov 2013
7160 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 9:06 pm to
I just quietly report them.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35371 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:00 pm to
quote:

Unlawful presence is a crime.
No it's not,

Is Illegal Immigration a Crime? Improper Entry v. Unlawful Presence
quote:

But mere unlawful presence in the country is not a crime. It is a violation of federal immigration law to remain in the country without legal authorization, but this violation is punishable by civil penalties, not criminal.
quote:

Both improper entry and unlawful presence should be avoided by any immigrant to the United States, but an illegal alien cannot be criminally charged or incarcerated simply for being undocumented.
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If you are in my house without permission you are trespassing.
Yes. And trespassing is a crime, but unlawful presence in the United States, while conceptually similar to trespassing, is not considered a crime.
Posted by bamafan1001
Member since Jun 2011
15783 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:08 pm to
Being bad at math is pretty much in the DNA for leftists
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
17985 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:13 pm to
You are so full of shite. Your own link speaks about illegal entry being a crime.

Unlawful presence describes people who have overstayed a VISA but came here legally. But guess what, they still have to go back too.
This post was edited on 9/15/17 at 10:14 pm
Posted by FightinTigersDammit
Louisiana North
Member since Mar 2006
45874 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:27 pm to
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She would be subject to removal under section 212.


What about rule 303?
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134124 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:31 pm to
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Unlawful presence describes people who have overstayed a VISA but came here legally. But guess what, they still have to go back too.


For some reason, that concept is difficult as frick for some people to grasp.

It's like checking into a hotel and then squatting there after checkout time and acting like you own the place.
Posted by GRTiger
On a roof eating alligator pie
Member since Dec 2008
68873 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 10:32 pm to
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Being petty is in the DNA for right wingers


I actually laughed out loud at the irony. I know people post LOL all the time, but in this case, it was true.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
35371 posts
Posted on 9/15/17 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

You are so full of shite. Your own link speaks about illegal entry being a crime.
I never said improper entry wasn't a crime. In fact, I actually acknowledged a few posts above the one you're responding to.
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Unlawful presence describes people who have overstayed a VISA but came here legally. But guess what, they still have to go back too.
Unlawful presence includes anyone who is here unlawfully. A person who improperly enters is still here unlawfully.

Here is the definitions regarding unlawful presence from the Imigration and Nationality Act:

U.S. Customs and Immigration Services
quote:

(B) 13ALIENS UNLAWFULLY PRESENT.-

(i) In general.-Any alien (other than an alien lawfully admitted for permanent residence) who-

(I) was unlawfully present in the United States for a period of more than 180
days but less than 1 year, voluntarily departed the United States (whether or
not pursuant to section
244(e)) prior to the commencement of proceedings under
section
235(b)(1) or section
240, and again seeks admission within 3 years of
the date of such alien's departure or removal, or

(II) has been unlawfully present in the United States for one year or more,
and who again seeks admission within 10 years of the date of such alien's
departure or removal from the United States is inadmissible.

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